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Near piping on steam boiler

KevMcG
KevMcG Member Posts: 30
What kind of problems will a steam boiler have that's feed is elbowed well below the 24" NWL. Its one pipe and does a have an equalizer.
I only glanced at the arrangement briefly. The gas is shut off to the building and was curious what issues this may cause (not to mention just from a glance I can tell its probably double the size it needs to be, but if it comes to it I will do the edr).
Thanks
Kevin

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  • Steamhead
    Steamhead Member Posts: 17,343
    It could bang

    since water may be carried up with the steam. But why not get the piping diagram for that model boiler to be sure? Glenn Stanton at Burnham can get it for you.

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  • Steam Piping

    Kevin,

    Assuming that the distance you are referring to is the minimum of 24" from the NWL to the header that we would prefer you keep, then there exists a pretty good likelyhood that water will sweep on up and around the header and equalizer. At startup when the system piping is venting, this will probably also get carried on up into the system riser(s) and into the mains. Let me know which model of boiler this is and I will post or e-mail you a good set of drawings showing pipe sizes, lengths and correct piping arrangements. Here is a graphic of what things may look like in an extreme case with really dirty and oily boiler water. Hope this helps.

    Glenn Stanton

    Burnham Corp.
  • Jackchips
    Jackchips Member Posts: 344
    Glenn,

    great schematic. How did you create that?
  • Bob Bona_4
    Bob Bona_4 Member Posts: 2,083
  • The animated graphic

    Jack,

    I create these using 3 different software programs. They are a sequence of 41 individual cad drawings. The initial cad drawing I do in TurboCad, import it into Paint Shop Pro to colorize and air brush the effects, then import them into a program called GIF Animator. This is one of many, many animated drawings that I use as part of our Training Program. They make learning a lot more fun at the seminars. Glad you liked it.

    Glenn Stanton

    Manager of Training

    Burnham Corp.
  • Boilerpro
    Boilerpro Member Posts: 410
    Great Graphics!

    I guess they give you time to play on the computer!

    Boilerpor
  • Not really!

    Most of the time needed to create these is on my own time, just like the time I take to monitor this and other sites! But I enjoy it and it is all part of making what I do easier in the long run.

    Glenn
  • kevin
    kevin Member Posts: 420
    Hey Glenn....

    What a great tool! This is just another reason that makes this site such a great resource! kpc
  • Thanks

    I expect to be up your way in a month or so. I'll let you know when and maybe we can get together for a bit. Thanks again.

    Glenn
  • George Berkeley
    George Berkeley Member Posts: 40
    That is just too much!!!

    What a great tool. I must have spent 20 minutes trying to describe exactly that cycle last night.

    Do you have one to show the heat/cool vent cycles of a radiator?
  • Jackchips
    Jackchips Member Posts: 344
    Thanks Glenn,

    The learning curve must be pretty steep, at least for yours truly.

    Lots of envy for your talent.
  • Funny you should ask that George

    I am actually in the middle of doing just that. They will show air venting either from the main and radiator vents on a one pipe system and through the thermostatic radiator valves and F&T valves of a two pipe system and the steam moving in and condensing. There will also be another to convey what may happen if one of the radiator valves happens to be leaking by on a two pipe system. Next will be various vapor systems with their respective components such as Broomell and Trane. They do take time though! These are all part of the Steam Seminar and other seminars that Ron Beck and I conduct throughout the country. These sure do make these seminars more interesting! Watch the Burnham web site for a seminar near you. Thanks.

    Glenn Stanton

    www.burnham.com/seminars
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