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ed wallace
ed wallace Member Posts: 1,613
i tried to click on to the letter could not get it to open must be the enviro nazis have blocked it

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  • Steve Ebels
    Steve Ebels Member Posts: 904
    This is actually verified and true

    These are the people who are manging our wildlife resources here in Michigan
  • Steve Ebels
    Steve Ebels Member Posts: 904
    Can't get

    The `!#$%}{<> thing to transfer from my e-mail. Suffice to say that our Dept of Environmental Quality wrote a stern letter to a landowner in Montcalm county regarding an earthen "debris" dam he had contructed on a stream running through his property. The dam had been constructed by beavers. The guy wrote an absolutely hilarious letter in response. I wish I could get it to post.
  • j_2
    j_2 Member Posts: 1
    re:beaver correspondence, Michigan Department of Environmental Q

    Subject: Go Figure

    This is a copy of an actual letter sent to Ryan DeVries, from the
    Michigan Department of Environmental Quality, State of Michigan. Wait
    till you read this guy's response - but read the entire letter before
    you get to the response.

    Mr. Ryan DeVries
    2088 Dagget
    Pierson, MI 49339
    SUBJECT: DEQ File No. 97-59-0023; T11N; R10W, Sec. 20;

    Site Location: Montcalm County

    Dear Mr. DeVries:

    It has come to the attention of the Department of Environmental Quality
    that there has been recent unauthorized activity on the above referenced
    parcel of property. You have been certified as the legal landowner
    and/or contractor who did the following unauthorized activity:

    Construction and maintenance of two wood debris dams across the outlet
    stream of Spring Pond.

    A permit must be issued prior to the start of this type of activity. A
    review of the Department's files shows that no permits have been issued.

    Therefore, the Department has determined that this activity is in
    violation of Part 301, Inland Lakes and Streams, of the Natural Resource
    and Environmental Protection Act, Act 451 of the Public Acts of 1994,
    being sections 324.30101 to 324.30113 of the Michigan Compiled Laws
    annotated.

    The Department has been informed that one or both of the dams partially
    failed during a recent rain event, causing debris and flooding at
    downstream locations. We find that dams of this nature are inherently
    hazardous and cannot be permitted.

    The Department therefore orders you to cease and desist all activities
    at this location, and to restore the stream to a free-flow condition by
    removing all wood and brush forming the dams from the stream channel.
    All restoration work shall be completed no later than January 31, 2002.

    Please notify this office when the restoration has been completed so
    that a follow-up site inspection may be scheduled by our staff. Failure
    to comply with this request or any further unauthorized activity on the
    site may result in this case being referred for elevated enforcement
    action.

    We anticipate and would appreciate your full cooperation in this matter.
    Please feel free to contact me at this office if you have any questions.

    Sincerely,
    David L. Price
    District Representative
    Land and Water Management Division
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    RESPONSE:

    Dear Mr. Price,

    Re: DEQ File No. 97-59-0023; T11N; R10W, Sec. 20;
    Montcalm County

    Reference your certified letter dated 12/17/2000 has been referred to me
    to respond to. First of all, Mr. Ryan De Vries is not the legal
    landowner and/or contractor at 2088 Dagget, Pierson, Michigan.

    I am the legal owner and a couple of beavers are in the (State
    unauthorized) process of constructing and maintaining two wood "debris"
    dams across the outlet stream of my Spring Pond.

    While I did not pay for, authorize, nor supervise their dam project, I
    think they would be highly offended that you call their skillful use of
    natural building materials "debris." I would like to challenge your
    department to attempt to emulate their dam project any time and/or any
    place you choose. I believe I can safely state there is no way you could
    ever match their dam skills, their dam resourcefulness, their dam
    ingenuity, their dam persistence, their dam determination and/or their
    dam work ethic.

    As to your request, I do not think the beavers are aware that they must
    first fill out a dam permit prior to the start of this type of dam
    activity. My first dam question to you is:
    (1) Are you trying to discriminate against my Spring Pond Beavers? or,
    (2) do you require all beavers throughout this State to conform to said
    dam request?

    If you are not discriminating against these particular beavers, through
    the Freedom of Information Act I request completed copies of all those
    other applicable beaver dam permits that have been issued. Perhaps we
    will see if there really is a dam violation of P! art 301, Inland Lakes
    and Streams, of the Natural Resource and Environmental Protection Act,
    Act 451 of the Public Acts of 1994, being sections 324.3010,1 to
    324.30113 of the Michigan Compiled Laws, annotated. I have several
    concerns. My first concern is aren't the beavers entitled to legal
    representation?

    The Spring Pond Beavers are financially destitute and are unable to pay
    for said representation - so the State will have to provide them with a
    lawyer.

    The Department's dam concern that either one or both of the dams failed
    during a recent rain event causing flooding is proof that this is a
    natural occurrence, which the Department is required to protect. In
    other words, we should leave the Spring Pond Beavers alone rather than
    harrass them and call their dam names. If you want the stream "restored"
    to a dam free-flow condition - please contact the beavers - but if you
    are going to arrest them they obviously did not pay any attention to
    your dam letter (being unable to read English).

    In my humble ! opinion, the Spring Pond Beavers have a right to build
    their unauthorized dams as long as the sky is blue, the grass is green
    and water flows downstream. They have more dam right than I do to live
    and enjoy Spring Pond. If the Department of Natural Resources and
    Environmental Protection lives up to its name, it should protect the
    natural resources
    (Beavers) and the environment (Beavers' Dams).

    So, as far as the beavers and I are concerned, this dam case can be
    referred for more elevated enforcement action right now. Why wait until
    1/31/2002 The Spring Pond Beavers may be under the dam ice then, and
    there will be no way for you or your dam staff to contact/harass them
    then.

    In conclusion, I would like to bring to your attention a real
    environmental quality (health) problem in the area. It is the bears.
    Bears are actually defecating in our woods. I definitely believe you
    should be persecuting the defecating bears and leave the beavers alone.

    If you are going to investigate the beaver dam, watch your step! (The
    bears are not careful where they dump!)

    Being unable to comply with your dam request, and being unable to
    contact you on your answering machine, I am sending this response to
    your office via another government organization - the USPS. Maybe,
    someday, it will get there.

    Sincerely,
    Stephen L. Tvedten
    The University of Texas at: Austin
    Office Community Relations/Accounting unit
    P.O. Box 7367
    Austin, TX 78713

    O thus be it ever, when free men shall stand; Between their loved homes
    and the war's desolation; Blessed with victory and peace, may the
    heaven's rescued land; Praise the power that hath made, and preserved us
    a nation. Then conquer we must, when our cause it is just; And this be
    our motto,

    "In God is our Trust"; And the Star Spangled Banner in triumph shall
    wave, O'er the land of the free & the home of the brave. (last verse of
    the National
    Anthem)
  • Larry_7
    Larry_7 Member Posts: 86
    Hats off to the author. Profound. NM

    Larry
  • Steve Ebels
    Steve Ebels Member Posts: 904
    Thanks J

    That's the one.
  • John R. Hall
    John R. Hall Member Posts: 2,245
    Taxes

    Another example of Michigan taxpayer's hard-earned money working for us!
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