Steamer in the cellar

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Until you get closer .....

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The door that leads to .....

the middle of a staircase . A creaky , broken , leaning to the left staircase .

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The steamer was a Slant Fin Malibu

Still working good . The customer just wanted to upgrade before the famous burn-through these boilers have every once in a while .

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Peerless ECT 3

Easily split into 3 sections to get in the cellar , easy to reassemble , and a damn fine steam boiler . The other pic is of the return piping in copper . We use a full sized ball valve for skimming , and a ball valve and drain to clean out the returns . The last pic is of a line tap right into the header . Anyone ever use one this way ? This one was installed with the boiler - 30 years ago , along with alot of copper piping to replace risers - I checked all of it out and the solder joints still lokked fine after all that time .

kevin

very interesting...

are there legs on those horizontal tanks? I have never seen the saddle taps before.Should have come off at a 45* though, right? That wasn'tast of basement stairs it was an elevator shaft!Nice work again Ron!

Mark J Strawcutter

stress relief

looks like someone took out their frustrations with a baseball bat on the side of that water heater :-)

Mark

ScottMP

Dents

Where ther in the before picture so we know it was'nt Ron.

Nice work as allways Ron. Do you use new push nipples or is this rubber gaskets for the sections ? If push nipples do you coat them ?

You still hav'nt sold me on the copper returns yet .

Nice work as allways. Looking forward to meeting the " master of install " this Nov.

Scott

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Yep , the Peerless has steel push nipples

We see them coated from the factory with Rectorseal or a Teflon based sealant . We use Rectorseal on the same nipples - done it on hundreds of ECTs without a problem . We have also used copper returns on hundreds of jobs without a problem . After seeing what steel pipes look like after years of service , compared to what copper looks like , we are willing to take the minimal risk of using it . Thank you very much Scott , but I dont think my work compares to what you and Chris can accomplish . I am looking foward to meeting the both of you also . I will make a copper return believer out of you yet .

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Those tanks had little stubby legs

holding them off the ground . There was a common fill teed into the 2 tanks and separate vents for each . One tank didnt have the vant alarm in it - makes it extremely hard to fill. I never seen that tap used either , but it looked pretty good after all this time . Its a great idea for installing a main vent where you need one - if its a hard spot to add it . They didnt go on a 45 because it would have pitched the riser the wrong way - it was a long run to the radiator in a crawl . With all the mixes of copper and steel and the tees going off without 45s , the customer said she never heard a banging in the pipes . Thank you Kevin

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That heater

is in its 3rd house - the homeowner told us her sons installed it there after making the rounds in other places . Its seen better days though .

Dave Palmer

Ron, whats the Taco relay of the front?Switching relay?Looks good,Dave

ScottMP

Hey Ron

There is beauty in simplicity.

Thats why I like your work, its allways plumb,true, and clean.

O.K. How sick am I.

Scott

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John@Reliable

Dave,

bet to turn burner on. Nice work Ron! John@Reliable

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Dave

Like John said , its used to turn the burner on - the thermostat was low voltage . Matter of fact , Ive only seen one line voltage steam zone before . Thanks Dave .

Dave Palmer

not...

just two wires down too the relay on burner? Dave

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The Riello burner

doesnt come with a tradition cad cell relay ( T - T , and F - F terminals on the outside ) . You need to add a relay to make it work a steam system . Ive heard of the Riello with the built in T and T in the brain , but we havent seen it yet . It would have to be pretty cheap to beat the price of a single Taco relay .

Rich Huey

Radiators / Push Nipples


I have taken on the challenge of using hot water radiators in the addition I am building on my house. I have been collecting all the old radiators I could find and am now in the process of restoring them.... I did what not seems to be the unthinkable and seperated the fins on some of the radiators. Now I am in the market for some new push nipples. I have looked everywhere... and have found none. Any advice on where to look next? Can I have them made to fit? Can I make them? Are there old design criteria and manufacturing data out there somewhere? It also seems that I need a tool to squeeze the sections back together... Does anyone know where I could find/barrow/buy such a tool? Any advice would be greatly appreaciated. I am a longs ways down this road and will not stop now..... Thanks Rich

Al Corelli - Agix Associates

I've seen a guy that used the old push nipples and a LOG SPLITTER to put the sections back together.

Yes, I said log splitter.

I ran into the Riello/steam problem last night when I realized there was nowhere to put the thermostat wires.
Good thing I keep a Taco SR-501 in the truck at all times.
Supposedly Riello has fixed this "issue" and has a 24 volt primary.

We've done many water jobs with Riellos, and I never noticed that the TT was not there. Maybe I'm just getting old...

Scott Toenniessen_3

Malibu Burn thru

What is the burn thru? The dry base combustion chamber? Any preventative maintenace to head this off?