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Steamhead
Steamhead Member Posts: 16,710
the V1 series was hot-water only.

Aside from the piping, what went wrong with it?

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  • Dave Palmer
    Dave Palmer Member Posts: 186


  • kevin
    kevin Member Posts: 420
    is that...

    an old burnham V-1? What else was wrong besides the copper header and "supposed equalizer" loop.Was it more a poor piping job than a poor boiler?kpc
  • That is a V7

    Dave......talk to us about this install and what the consequences were.

    Glenn
  • Steamhead
    Steamhead Member Posts: 16,710
    Burnham Steamer Piped Right

    This one's an older V-34, on a Hoffman Controlled Heat Vapor System with later-style Differential Loop. The original installation was pathetic so we repiped it. This boiler should last a good while longer now!

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  • keith
    keith Member Posts: 224
    steamhead

    My forman has been trying to talk me into copper condensate and near wet reurn piping at the boiler. I seem to be stuck on steel piping. Have you been having good results with the copper? I was under the impresion that the PH may effect the copper. Is that a fairy tail or is it a matter of maintaing a specific PH?
  • We have been using copper on the returns for years

    Havent had any major problems using it . Heres an even older Burnham . It had steel returns and some copper connecting it to the boiler return . The copper had to be decades old , and was still smooth on the inside . The steel was older , and it was clogged with spooge barnacles .
  • We replaced the Burnham with another Burnham

    We use black malleable fittings for steam , and copper for the equalizer and returns . We try to go full size to the Hartford loop like Steamhead did , and do it in black until we reduce it .
  • Steamhead
    Steamhead Member Posts: 16,710
    As long as the copper doesn't carry steam

    you shouldn't have a problem with it. I've had experience similar to Ron's- older copper returns in perfect shape, older steel ones really dirty.

    The only caveat is that the flux can cause an unsteady water line if it gets in the boiler. We minimize this by flushing out the copper return piping before starting the boiler. Water-soluble flux also helps.

    But, since the new boiler acts like a scouring pad on the old system- especially if we've installed or upgraded the main vents- we figure on going back to clean the waterside at least once.

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