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Mike T., Swampeast MO
Mike T., Swampeast MO Member Posts: 6,928
in THE MAIN WALL
Plumbing meets hydronics. Thermostatic, pressure balanced and flow compensated. Just wish I could get my sweat joints as pretty as some I see here.

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  • Unknown
    Unknown
    Looks like

    the beginnings of yet another "Human Car Wash"!

    Glenn Stanton

    Manager of Training

    Burnham Corp.
  • keith
    keith Member Posts: 224
    Nice stuff

    That always made me mad that a nice piece of art like that is going to be buried for the next 30 years in a wall. Looks like they will need a mask and snorkel.
  • Mike T., Swampeast MO
    Mike T., Swampeast MO Member Posts: 6,928
    Yep...

    Shoulder, kidney and thigh for "normal" and "sprouts." Two handhelds for spousal fun (plus cleaning) and a shower head high enough that even I don't have to stoop. Use one, few, many or all. "Car wash" will be great after a day in a crawlspace/attic/demolition.

  • Mike T., Swampeast MO
    Mike T., Swampeast MO Member Posts: 6,928
    Art

    Is what separates hydroniticians from plain plumbers.

    Thanks again Dan for giving those who not only put themselves in the place of a water molecule or BTU, but see pipes as art--dare I even say sexy sometimes.

    Below: where water goes; what holds it up; and why it'll be hot in an instant (insulated tee far end of gravity DHW recirc. loop). The drooping cold line isn't attached yet.
  • hr
    hr Member Posts: 6,106
    looks like

    some serious beam reinforcement going on there, what's it supporting? Cover that S trap before the inspector drops by :)

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  • Mike T., Swampeast MO
    Mike T., Swampeast MO Member Posts: 6,928
    \"S\" trap?

    > some serious beam reinforcement going on there,

    > what's it supporting? Cover that S trap before

    > the inspector drops by :)

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  • Mike T., Swampeast MO
    Mike T., Swampeast MO Member Posts: 6,928
    \"S\" trap?

    Unless I'm utterly daft, it's a "P" trap. Perspective is hard to see in the photo, but the weir of the trap is well below the level of the horizontal--bottom of trap 4" or so below the bottom of the joist.

    This is looking up an original stairway, shower directly above. Old-timers didn't frame stairways very well--nothing doubled--nothing supported below. Didn't want to drop the ceiling height (10') any lower than the bottom of the trap and only had room for a 2x6. Didn't trust a 3' cantilever on even a tripled 2x6, so added the steel.

    The new looking joist with the bolts extending towards you is where I doubled the original single joist holding the rest of the joists cut off by the stairwell. STILL bothered me as this (now doubled joist) is supported completely by the ribbon dead-center over a window. After 80 years it was showing some deflection and with the added weight of the shower....I don't care how good their wood was back then, it needed more support.

    P.S. Have inspectors in every time I do something big and I honestly point out every mistake/concession I've made. They pretty well know that I'm my own worse critic.
  • kevin
    kevin Member Posts: 420
    what is the...

    water heater or should I say heaters? How many gallons? I have heard of teses "car washes" needing two shower drains to keep up w/ the DFU's. What do yoyu use for a camera? kpc
  • Mike T., Swampeast MO
    Mike T., Swampeast MO Member Posts: 6,928


    110 gal, NG, atmospheric, tank-type heater. 1" taps. 1" meter for house, 1-1/4" entrance. Standard height, but large diameter. Fuel use has actually gone DOWN compared to the 40 gal, 8-year-old unit it replaced!

    I too wondered if two drains were needed, but both Grohe and a plumber who has done a similar installation assured me that a single 2" drain was sufficient. I sure hope they're right!

    Camera is an Olympus D-510 zoom. Reasonably priced, good features. Only problem I find is geometric distortion--quite a bit compared to my old "professional" 35mm Olympus. I assure you that the doubled edge-of-door studs are perfectly straight!
  • Mark J Strawcutter
    Mark J Strawcutter Member Posts: 625
    wire can be beautifull, too

    are you going to tidy up that romex and make it look as nice as the piping?

    Mark
  • Mike T., Swampeast MO
    Mike T., Swampeast MO Member Posts: 6,928
    Figured someone would mention that...

    ...and yes, I'll bundle it up with nylon ties and route it fairly pretty. I've left ventilation space through the entire ceiling so the framing is intentionally unobstructed and there is no place to drill holes for neat runs.
  • Mark J Strawcutter
    Mark J Strawcutter Member Posts: 625
    left off the smiley face

    didn't intend to come off sounding ornery.

    My first experience in a trade involved wiring and I have this thing about running wires (or pipes or anything for that matter) on the diagonal.

    Mark
  • Mike T., Swampeast MO
    Mike T., Swampeast MO Member Posts: 6,928
    Believe me, no offense taken...

    ...and you're right!
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