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Not the best use for a closet - ron jr.

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in THE MAIN WALL
that was built after the boiler and heater were put in - to get every extra inch of living space . The boiler let go and the entire basement rug was saturated .

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    To get the boiler off the floor a bit

    the guys who installed this boiler used those 4 nipples in the muck to raise it up . I guess it was too far to drive for some cement blocks .
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    We took out both

    the boiler and heater and installed a Peerless WBV3 in its place . The other pic is of the staircase we had to bring all the eqipment down . Why a housebuilder would end a staircase so close to another wall is beyond me . But we run into this problem all the time .
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    Hey Ron i see that you work on some of LONG ISLANDS best heating equpt,Real nice job!mThat you installed!!! You and who ever you work with can be proud of your skills!!!!
  • kevin
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    neat job...

    Why no watts 70a or sparco mixing valve on the tankless water heater?
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    Thank you Jerry

    I did boilers in NYC for my 1st 10 years , and there was always ample room , and direct access to the boiler . Working on Long Island , every boiler has to go through a finished part of the house , and usually in a closet or tight area . Sometimes I miss the city .
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    Kevin

    To tell you the truth , Im not sure . I know before I started working for Meenan they used a type of auto mixer that was a complete failure - just about everyone had to be changed . I guess the company is leery in using another type. Are the ones you mentioned reliable ? Do you have to drop the cold from the coil down a ways to make them perform properly ? I really wouldnt mind installing all the extra equpment to get my boilers up to the safest codes for the families - like the mixer , a LWCO , separate hi limit , sheetrock over the boiler . But you know how the big companies work - they will try to incorporate all that extra into the job without giving us the extra manpower to do it . And we are stretched to the breaking point right now .

    We always tell the customer of the function of the hand mixer , and with the customers who want a certain temp we will set it for them with a gauge at a sink . Thanks Kevin .
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    Tight on space

    Way to go Ron jr, I like saving space. It's upwards of $185 sq ft around here.

    al
  • ScottMP
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    Ron

    I noticed the lack of tempering valve also, but you do such nice work I did'nt want to be critical. Since I now know its not your decision, you should talk to the company. They are leaving themselves wide open for a scalding law suit. That boiler could be putting out 150/160 and the ball valves could be just shut off by the home owner. Also how about backflow preventers ? They don't care about those either huh ?

    As allways Ron, you've done beautifull work. Your an artist.

    Scott

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  • kevin
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    Ron

    I have had real good luck w/ the sparco mixing valves and you dont have to trap them.They are much more $ than say a Watts 70a . But you get what you pay for, the watts just dont last. ($75 vs. $20) By code here in NH you have to put some type of thermostatic valve on a tankles coil, although I have seen a few old boilers w/ the setup you had and they work ok. One advantage to what you installed is low mantainance, something most customers desire. Keep up he great work! Kevin c.
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    Actually

    We were in that situation once because there was no mixer installed at all . Since then we went through the auto mix debacle , then switched back to a hand mix , and havent been in that situation since. Scott , do you know where to find out what the code is for a mixing valve ? Does it specifically say that a hand mixer is not satisfactory ? Theres a hand mix on just about every old boiler we see , and there never seemed to be a problem back then . Thanks for the compliment Scott .
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    I think it was the Watts

    mixer we had all the problems with . Im gonna tell my bosses about the Sparco - but at $70 a pop , I know the answer already . Are the guts of the Sparco easy to change just in case ? Thank you Kevin .
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    Eleft

    Thats a premium per foot where youre at . The job we did was in a pretty run down neighborhood and they made 4 bedrooms in the basement with a common kitchen and bathroom . This guy was in the bedroom with the staircase . He slept right through us working down there . Didnt even notice the flash of the camera .
  • Kevin Coppinger
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    Ron...

    Yes the guts are easy to replace. They are also equipped w/ unions to do the whole thing.I am in New Hampshire. We use the 1993 Boca code (until Sept.) Chapter 15 p1508 talks about the mixer valves. I am not sure what NY has for a code. Either way I enjoy looking at your installs. You get boilers in places so small..... Hats off!
    kevin C.
  • ScottMP
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    Sparco

    Ron they are also anti-scauld. Just one more step away from the ambulance chasers. Thats how I would bring it up to the boss's. If they only understand the bottom line, A lawsuit big enough to stop the whole company in its track is about as bottom as it gets.

    Keep on, Keepin on !!

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  • Paul Pollets
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    CFA?

    How did you do the combustion fresh air?

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    The door was louvre

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