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Why Carbon Monoxide Is So Dangerous

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RayWohlfarth
RayWohlfarth Member Posts: 2,039
edited June 26 in THE MAIN WALL

In this weeks video, I talk about the dangers and effects of carbon monoxide exposure.

Ray Wohlfarth
Boiler Lessons
Bob HarperIntplm.

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  • Steamhead
    Steamhead Member Posts: 18,740

    That's why CO is called the "silent killer".

    I bet most of us have CO stories………

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    Mad Dog_2
  • Mad Dog_2
    Mad Dog_2 Member Posts: 8,691

    Great scientific explanation Ray. It's deeply troubling to me how few, home and building owners, take active Carbon Monoxide issues in their living/working space, seriously. I find residential homeowners even less so. Whether it's in the budget or not, we install ALL boilers - Small and Big - with a Smoke/Carbon Monoxide Interlock. Mad Dog

    PFloro
  • RayWohlfarth
    RayWohlfarth Member Posts: 2,039

    @Steamhead yes sir scary I brought my co detector on vacation to check the hotel rooms lol

    @Mad Dog_2 thank you

    Ray Wohlfarth
    Boiler Lessons
    Mad Dog_2
  • mattmia2
    mattmia2 Member Posts: 17,584
    edited June 29

    I wonder if hotels actually have more of a CO problem or if they get more press than a CO incident in a single family home? I'm sure they are worse than most other commercial buildings but maybe not worse than residential.

  • Bob Harper
    Bob Harper Member Posts: 1,180

    I always wear a personal CO alarm. I get teased about that, but you know the best part about getting teased? You have to be alive for teasing to matter. A nice, quick overview from Ray. As a retired paramedic who has taken the NCI course more times than I can remember allow me to interject this about symptoms: They are wholly unreliable prognosticators and virtually never manifest until you have been significantly exposed. The exception is chronic low level CO. While CO itself is not cumulative in the body but clears at a half life of 3-5 hrs. depending upon your sources, the sequelae, meaning the long term effects from cellular hypoxia can be. There is a growing body of evidence for chronic low level CO sufferers becoming so debilitated they become non-ambulatory but bedridden. How many people take drugs for mood swings, ADHD, psychosis, etc. when it is really CO? How about those mysterious allergies that fail to show up on testing? Chronic headaches diagnosed as idiopathic (meaning they don't have a clue). How about your mental focus, memory, reaction times, and cognition? Think of CO poisoning as suffocating because that's the net effect to the cells- hypoxia. You need O2 for Krebs Cycle (Citric acid cycle) for cellular aerobic (oxygen) metabolism. Another side effect of CO is the garbage piling up at the curb. Hemoglobin cannot assist your blood plasma with removing the metabolic wastes from cellular metabolism, such as lactic and pyruvic acid. Thus, these metabolic acids damage cells as well as cause metabolic acidosis to some degree.

    GGrossMad Dog_2
  • ArthurPeabody
    ArthurPeabody Member Posts: 46

    I was getting progressively and inexplicably sleepy. I eventually figured out it was my gas range. I opened the windows, turned on the fans, even though it was January, and went outside. I bought a CO monitor - and a new range.

  • Steamhead
    Steamhead Member Posts: 18,740

    Did you do a combustion test on the new one? I've seen brand-new stoves produce over 500 PPM out of the box, mainly from the oven burners. Most can be readjusted to eliminate this.

    All Steamed Up, Inc.

    Baltimore, MD, USA
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    mattmia2
  • mattmia2
    mattmia2 Member Posts: 17,584

    conversely their old one probably could have been cleaned and adjusted to to eliminate the majority of the CO unless the burner itself had collapsed or something like that.

  • Steamhead
    Steamhead Member Posts: 18,740

    All Steamed Up, Inc.

    Baltimore, MD, USA
    Steam, Vapor & Hot-Water Heating Specialists
    Oil & Gas Burner Service
    Consulting

    mattmia2
  • hot_rod
    hot_rod Member Posts: 27,911

    Roy Colver, a former combustion trainer, out in Western Canada always travels with a personal CO detector. I was in a restaurant with him years ago, an open grill steakhouse. His detector went off the minute we walked in. We got a table near the front entry door!

    Bob "hot rod" Rohr
    trainer for Caleffi NA
    Living the hydronic dream
    mattmia2
  • Steve Minnich
    Steve Minnich Member Posts: 2,902

    I’ve worn a personal detector for decades, still do. We took the kids on vacation every year and Estes Park in Colorado was always one of our favorites. One time, the minute we walked into our cabin my detector went crazy within seconds. We had it booked for a week. I told everyone to just turn around and get back in the car.

    I went to sales office, explained what happened, and they refused to return my money. I stayed calm and asked if I could borrow their maintenance man for a few minutes. We walked over to our cabin and, again, the moment we opened the door the detector went off with a very high reading although I don’t remember the number. We walked back to the office. My money was refunded and that cabin was shut down

    Steve Minnich
    Mad Dog_2