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Install Time!

Cyclist77
Cyclist77 Member Posts: 181

So you fellows have provided me with great information in the past months! Now it is install time.

To review I have a radiant floor heating system retrofit that used a coal stoker boiler. I am switching to a NG CI Weil-McClain boiler. The old boil is out and the new is sitting and ready for install.

I am very fortunate to have a former hvac company owner that will help me with the installation! In fact he did the coal boiler 16 years ago.

So here is a question. Yesterday we were looking at the setup and as will need a 4 way mixing valve I mentioned that I would get a Tekmar. He wasn't overly thrilled. So I was wondering what alternatives I have?

It needs to be 1.25",I want outdoor reset also.

I started looking at Taco but 1.25" doesn't seem available.

Suggestions would be great!

Thanks

Comments

  • hot_rod
    hot_rod Member Posts: 25,757

    the valves and actuators are all about the same. Its the control that drives the actuator that is key. Tekmar is probably the most common, been around for 25 years or more

    The rep in Denver for tekmar is one of the best.

    Are you sure you need an 1-1/4?

    You size a valve by the Cv number not the connection size.

    The 1” tekmar is a 14 Cv so14- 18 gpm without a problem. That would be a 140,000 btu/ hr boiler, what size do you have?

    I have not used the Taco, I think it has a few dip switches for prigramming choices. The tekmars generally have a digital readout and more programming options, if that matters?

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    Bob "hot rod" Rohr
    trainer for Caleffi NA
    Living the hydronic dream
  • Cyclist77
    Cyclist77 Member Posts: 181

    Bob,

    Thanks for your reply. The Weil-McClain CGa3 is 67,000btu. The reason I was thinking 11/4" is the old 3 way is/was 11/4" and the copper piping is also 11/4".

    So it appears I can go down in size even though the piping is 11/4"?

    Tom

  • mattmia2
    mattmia2 Member Posts: 14,320

    is 67,000 btu/hr input or output? you need about 1 gpm per 10,000 btu/hr so if that is output of the boiler you'd need a valve with a Cv of about 7.

  • Cyclist77
    Cyclist77 Member Posts: 181

    It is 67,000 input.

  • hot_rod
    hot_rod Member Posts: 25,757

    look at the output number on the boiler and then take the altitude derate. I think you are in the mountains above Denver?

    48,000 is the net output taking into account the 84% efficiency

    Then derate 4% for every 1000’ altitude above 2,000’

    I’m not sure the calorific content of NG is out there these days, if you are on NG?


    Actually a 3/4 valve has a 7 Cv

    4 gpm may move all that boiler will give you

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    Bob "hot rod" Rohr
    trainer for Caleffi NA
    Living the hydronic dream
  • Cyclist77
    Cyclist77 Member Posts: 181

    Bob,

    I live in NE Ohio