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motomars
motomars Member Posts: 20

Previous owners of my house connected a 3"pvc bathroom waste line to a smaller - about 2.5"od - cast iron pipe. The connection is just above the slab in the basement and the cast iron section has one 45 degree turn and runs about 6' before connecting to the main sewer line. How concerned should I be about this?

I don't know if waste "thins" as it travels through the pipe, but fwiw, the bathroom is on the 2nd floor and the PVC runs about 30' before connecting to the cast iron. Also, there's a cleanout where the two connect.

As I see it the options are: dig up the floor and replace the cast iron (not eager to do that, as it means demo'ing a section of finished floor…); dig up the area around the elbow and just replace that, so at least the turn is 3" (would this make enough of a difference to be worth it?); or, leave it be and use the clean out to snake the cast iron section every so often. Thanks in advance for any input.

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  • Mad Dog_2
    Mad Dog_2 Member Posts: 8,254

    Wait till it backs up..Mad Dog

    delcrossv
  • mattmia2
    mattmia2 Member Posts: 13,273

    How did this happen in the first place? Was a bathroom added where there was none before?

  • Larry Weingarten
    Larry Weingarten Member Posts: 3,882

    A question. Is there any other place you can tie into 3" pipe? 🤔

    Yours, Larry

  • delcrossv
    delcrossv Member Posts: 2,183
    edited May 13

    Tied a waste line onto a vent or sink drain? That's a no-no.

    Try a wait and see, but it will eventually clog. N.B. @Mad Dog_2 's comment above. Not. Fun.😬

    Trying to squeeze the best out of a Weil-McLain JB-5 running a 1912 1 pipe system.
  • motomars
    motomars Member Posts: 20

    They added a full bathroom in the front of the house where there used to only be sink - it's an old rowhouse and the main stack is in the back. There's no easy way to tie this line into the stack.

    If I dig up the cast iron elbow and replace it with 3" pvc, would that help? Or not worth the effort?

    I may replace the basement floor in the next few years, and could dig up up the cast iron pipe then. So this doesn't necessarily need to be a forever solution.

  • Larry Weingarten
    Larry Weingarten Member Posts: 3,882

    Hi, Maybe the right balance is simply to have some good drain cleaning tools around… at least until you can fix the pipe properly.

    Yours, Larry

  • hot_rod
    hot_rod Member Posts: 25,268

    sounds like they tied into a 2” drain or vent pipe?

    Is it clogging up, or why the concern? It needs to be 3” for a toilet, by code.

    Bob "hot rod" Rohr
    trainer for Caleffi NA
    Living the hydronic dream
    Larry Weingarten
  • mattmia2
    mattmia2 Member Posts: 13,273

    Can you run it along the ceiling or the permitter of the basement to get to the main stack?

    delcrossv
  • delcrossv
    delcrossv Member Posts: 2,183
    edited May 13

    Not worth the effort unless it changes to something bigger under the floor. If not, might as well run 3" all the way to the sewer.

    To @mattmia 's suggestion, how far to the stack? That bathroom needs to be vented somewhere.

    Trying to squeeze the best out of a Weil-McLain JB-5 running a 1912 1 pipe system.
  • Alan (California Radiant) Forbes
    Alan (California Radiant) Forbes Member Posts: 4,488
    edited May 13

    There's a 2" discharge on sewer ejectors, but that after it's been Osterized.

    You could put a 3" cleanout just before it transitions to 2" and eat lots of veggies.

    8.33 lbs./gal. x 60 min./hr. x 20°ΔT = 10,000 BTU's/hour

    Two btu per sq ft for degree difference for a slab
    delcrossv

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