Welcome! Here are the website rules, as well as some tips for using this forum.
Need to contact us? Visit https://heatinghelp.com/contact-us/.
Click here to Find a Contractor in your area.

How to Install a Toilet? Step-by-Step Advice

2»

Comments

  • delcrossv
    delcrossv Member Posts: 2,181
    https://forum.heatinghelp.com/discussion/comment/1848970#Comment_1848970

    Need an :eek: smiley. 😬

    Trying to squeeze the best out of a Weil-McLain JB-5 running a 1912 1 pipe system.
  • Mad Dog_2
    Mad Dog_2 Member Posts: 8,208
    edited March 19

    The ONLY DWV copper I have seen that rotted out is on carbonated Soda waste lines at Pubs & Restaurants...not on Sanitary...Levitt houses in Long Island are all DWV Copper waste. These are Post WW II built homes..so were taking 75-80 years of service. Mad Dog

    Consulting by Mad Dog & Matt Jr.
    mattmia2Long Beach Ed
  • JUGHNE
    JUGHNE Member Posts: 11,444

    The house with the older couple had that leaking/dripping into the basement for years……..so really EEK!

    delcrossv
  • ChrisJ
    ChrisJ Member Posts: 16,756
    https://forum.heatinghelp.com/discussion/comment/1848970#Comment_1848970

    If steam mains rott out from holding water why don't radiators?

    Single pipe 392sqft system with an EG-40 rated for 325sqft and it's silent and balanced at all times.

  • mattmia2
    mattmia2 Member Posts: 13,012
    https://forum.heatinghelp.com/discussion/comment/1848985#Comment_1848985

    they rot out more from years of liquid water getting thrown in to the mains from various ignored issues.

  • JUGHNE
    JUGHNE Member Posts: 11,444
    edited March 19

    If you wait 150 years they will probably rust thru……unless someone pees in them, then probably earlier.

    The few steam carrying pipes I have seen leaking had no slope or were level, not draining. After 70-80 years the leaks showed up.

    Also rads are cast iron and most steam pipe is black steel pipe, around here anyway.

    Then consider wet returns, maybe only 25 years.

  • Mad Dog_2
    Mad Dog_2 Member Posts: 8,208

    Cast Iron versus steel...Mad Dog

    Consulting by Mad Dog & Matt Jr.
  • Intplm.
    Intplm. Member Posts: 2,648

    Who started supplying bolts with the heads that are too small!!?? I mean really! The damn things just spin, don't catch when tightening down. Who-are-you ?

    JUGHNEAlan (California Radiant) ForbesLong Beach Ed
  • JUGHNE
    JUGHNE Member Posts: 11,444

    Someone "value engineered" a few grains of brass out of the bolts.

    This had been a peeve of mine also. The PVC flanges are often too sloppy for the heads also. So I see why some double nut the bolt, that is run a nut down on the bolt to the flange.

    mattmia2Intplm.
  • Alan (California Radiant) Forbes
    Alan (California Radiant) Forbes Member Posts: 4,460

    How about those lead closet bends? I've replaced a few that had electrolysis generated perforations over the years. Lead and oakumed the new closet bend. Poured the lead when there was access. Lead wool when there wasn't.

    8.33 lbs./gal. x 60 min./hr. x 20°ΔT = 10,000 BTU's/hour

    Two btu per sq ft for degree difference for a slab
    mattmia2delcrossv
  • delcrossv
    delcrossv Member Posts: 2,181
    edited March 20

    Aside from clearance issues, is there any reason to use a closet bend instead of a no hub quarter bend? Less chance of stuff getting caught in the sharp angle.

    ???

    Trying to squeeze the best out of a Weil-McLain JB-5 running a 1912 1 pipe system.
  • ChrisJ
    ChrisJ Member Posts: 16,756
    https://forum.heatinghelp.com/discussion/comment/1848973#Comment_1848973

    Interesting.

    I'm still on the fence on ripping the little bit I have out. Others had lead me to believe it was best to get rid of it.

    This is where experience comes in really really handy.

    Single pipe 392sqft system with an EG-40 rated for 325sqft and it's silent and balanced at all times.

  • Alan (California Radiant) Forbes
    Alan (California Radiant) Forbes Member Posts: 4,460
    https://forum.heatinghelp.com/discussion/comment/1849010#Comment_1849010

    I could never understand closet bends. Code says to use sweeps when you go from vertical to horizontal.

    They were probably made that way for upper floor toilets where you had to stay inside a joist bay.

    8.33 lbs./gal. x 60 min./hr. x 20°ΔT = 10,000 BTU's/hour

    Two btu per sq ft for degree difference for a slab
  • Intplm.
    Intplm. Member Posts: 2,648
    https://forum.heatinghelp.com/discussion/comment/1849054#Comment_1849054

    The only place that this is allowed by code is a toilet. It's The reason was that the toilet would break down the solids when introduced to the drain. It is also the only place to allow for a reduction in dimension on the run, ie. 4 x 3 inch ninety… four inch in three inch out.

    We used to install vent ells with a street flange when replacing some closet bends it tight spaces. Worked, works fine.

    Code also used to allow for three quarter bends serving a toilets discharge. I never had to do that and wouldn't do it now due to all of the low consumption toilets in use today. Twelve eight and three gallon flush types were fine with it back when.

    Long Beach Eddelcrossv

Categories