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Beckett CF500 help needed

Harley_Dave
Harley_Dave Member Posts: 35

I have a Beckett CF500 burner that I purchased back in 2022 that was installed in a Buderus G315-5 boiler. I switched the boiler over to burn waste oil using a Cleanburn CB90-HS. I am now switching back to burn #2 home heating oil and I want to install the Beckett CF500 back in the boiler. I purchased some new parts for this burner like electrodes, nozzle, transformer etc. This burner came with a V1 head, What I can't figure out is how keep the burner head centered in the tube. There is a coiled steel wire at about 11 o'clock but nothing to keep it off the bottom of the tube. I hope my explanation makes sense. Any and all help is greatly appreciated.

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  • ScottSecor
    ScottSecor Member Posts: 902

    I have not worked on a Beckett CF500 oil burner in over twenty years. I just looked at the Beckett site and it appears you have the wrong head and perhaps the wrong nozzle assembly. I strongly suggest you get a a professional to set up your burner. Make sure they have a combustion analyzer and know how to use it!

    Greening
  • EBEBRATT-Ed
    EBEBRATT-Ed Member Posts: 16,479

    Maybe the wire goes on the bottom to center the nozzle but I don't think so. Had a school with 3 Burnhams with those burners that I worked on, but I can't remember. Probably 25 years ago. We didn't have too many of those Becketts around here we were in Carlin territory.

  • Harley_Dave
    Harley_Dave Member Posts: 35

    Hi Scott,

    When I bought this unit in the spring of 2022 this a picture of what the burner head that was in looked like which is center up. My son removed the blast tube because it was part of the Buderus boiler. You can see in the one picture the burner head is centered in the tube, nasty dirty but centered. In the other picture you can see how the tube is part of the boiler. In looking at the burner picture it almost looks like I am missing some type of insert. It's been two years since this was taken apart so I'm not 100% sure what was in there. I tried looking everywhere online for a diagram of some kind with no luck.

  • Harley_Dave
    Harley_Dave Member Posts: 35

    I was thinking the same as you on putting the wire at the bottom and it did center it but in look at the old picture I just posted to Scott it looks like I am missing some type of insert in the blast tube. Does it look to you like an insert behind the burner head?

  • ScottSecor
    ScottSecor Member Posts: 902

    I suspect you already saw these?

    Parts breakdown:

    chrome-extension://efaidnbmnnnibpcajpcglclefindmkaj/https://www.beckettcorp.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/12/62200-004-Parts-List-CF500-CF800-3.pdf

    Check out figure 6 on page 10, this might help. chrome-extension://efaidnbmnnnibpcajpcglclefindmkaj/https://www.beckettcorp.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/CF500-800

    Might want to reach out to Beckett. They used to be very helpful with regard to customer support.

  • Harley_Dave
    Harley_Dave Member Posts: 35

    It does look like there is some type of insert in there by looking at their drawing. I'm wondering if it is possible to switch it over to another type of burner head?

  • BDR529
    BDR529 Member Posts: 310

    Missing part of the retention head, look at the sooty pic. Might be easier to buy a new air tube kit

    GrallertHVACNUT
  • BDR529
    BDR529 Member Posts: 310

    Gave up on waste oil? You got to keep 'em hot and a few other things. What was your experiance?

  • Grallert
    Grallert Member Posts: 774
    edited August 6

    wire goes on the bottom and you're missing part of the tube.

    Miss Hall's School service mechanic, greenhouse manager,teacher and dog walker
  • Harley_Dave
    Harley_Dave Member Posts: 35

    That picture with it all sooted up was taken when I bought this burner/boiler in 2022. I can see what appears to be a tapered ring inside the tube which I assume would support the burner head. We must have removed it when we converted it to a waste oil burner. Beckett does make a Blast Tube & Nozzle Line Assembly for CF500 Burner part# CF80KK. I'd have to think it would have to have that support attached inside the tube. I would have to remove the support from the new tube and place it inside mine. My tube is welded in the the thick steel plate for the boiler so no way to change my tube.

  • Harley_Dave
    Harley_Dave Member Posts: 35

    I had thought maybe the wire went on the bottom also but from a few videos I've seen they show it on the top. I am definitely missing that the part inside the blast tube.

  • Harley_Dave
    Harley_Dave Member Posts: 35

    I was running a Clean Burn CB90HS waste oil burner. It ran fine my first year wiinter of 2022 and maybe had to it the reset once or twice that year and I was happy. Fast forward to winter 2023. Got 800 gallons of new waste oil and had nothing but problems. I spent so much time cleaning nozzles, changing filters and dealing with waking up to no heat. The inside of my boiler looked terrible, black crude, excess oil that didn't burn. It was a mess. While I like only paying a $1.00 a gallon delivered the time I spent working on it and the mess it made was not worth the aggravation. You can never count on getting clean burnable waste oil.

    Greening
  • BDR529
    BDR529 Member Posts: 310

    So true a good source of clean oil is tough to find and rule #1. Nevermind the synthetics are messing it up.

    Harley_Dave
  • HVACNUT
    HVACNUT Member Posts: 6,332

    Don't do that. You don't "MacGyver" things that make fire.

    Beckett no longer manufactures an OEM Air Tube for the G315, but do they offer a Universal Air Tube and Burner Flange? You would need an Air Tube length to match your existing nozzle assembly. And High Temperature Silicone.

    And unless you have a combustion analyzer and smoke tester, you really shouldn't be doing any of it.

    "You can never count on getting clean burnable waste oil." Is that a Yogi Berra quote?

  • BDR529
    BDR529 Member Posts: 310

    What dose Yogi Berra have to do with waste oil?

    Harley_Dave
  • Harley_Dave
    Harley_Dave Member Posts: 35

    I did find someone who has the universal air tube in the exact length I need and it comes with the the nozzle assembly. He is away on vacation and will contact me on Monday. I have a oil furnace man who will set all this up for me. As far as waste oil goes there is so many people using synthetic oil and it doesn't burn very well.

    HVACNUTGreening
  • HVACNUT
    HVACNUT Member Posts: 6,332

    "What does "clean" have to do with waste oil when the burner isn't a Waste Oil Burner?" should be the question.

  • BDR529
    BDR529 Member Posts: 310
    edited August 9

    Ya missed a chapter, go back and re-read.

  • EBEBRATT-Ed
    EBEBRATT-Ed Member Posts: 16,479

    probably what the screw holes on the tube were for

    Harley_Dave