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NTI Gas combi boiler do they need to be inspected annually

jrlang63
jrlang63 Member Posts: 5

I have new gas NTI FTVN Combi boiler installed in home. What is the recommendation for maintenance / inspection. Prior to this new boiler was i had an oil fired condensing Combi boiler and I did have it inspected annually just want to know if new gas fired boiler needs annual inspection.

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  • dko
    dko Member Posts: 668
    edited July 17

    Yes and maintenance information starts at page 100 in your manual so you know what to expect.

    Mad Dog_2
  • EBEBRATT-Ed
    EBEBRATT-Ed Member Posts: 16,400

    Gas is more forgiving than oil but problems will arise if it is neglected

  • Mad Dog_2
    Mad Dog_2 Member Posts: 7,506

    ALL fuel burning equipment should be atleast examined annually, cleaned if needed. Mad Dog 🐕

    GGross
  • jrlang63
    jrlang63 Member Posts: 5

    Thank you for the feedback much appreciated.

  • hot_rod
    hot_rod Member Posts: 23,271

    the manufacturer will have maintenance guidelines in the manual.

    Personally if I opened my boiler after the first year and it was clean, no corrosion on the flame rods, combustion numbers still in spec I’d go two or three years.

    I ignored one of my mod cons for 6 or so years, it was still amazingly clean when I did open it.

    Burner adjustment, and quality of combustion air has a to do with the condition of the combustion side. Keep intake and exhaust separated to avoid recycling exhaust gases.

    Dust, pollen, bugs getting sucked inside can be the biggest issues.

    Bob "hot rod" Rohr
    trainer for Caleffi NA
    Living the hydronic dream
  • Alan (California Radiant) Forbes
    Alan (California Radiant) Forbes Member Posts: 4,212
    edited July 24

    Cleaning the heat exchanger (HX) is not an easy chore and it helps to have removable panels on the top of the outer cover, but I don't see any in their diagrams. Have a replacement igniter, flame probe, HX gasket and refractory (insulation) available in case they are damaged or need to be replaced.

    For the many fire tube HX's that I've inspected, very few have built up any debris - next to none - as they are self-cleaning. So I don't clean them anymore.

    Their brochure says a fire tube HX, but the technical spec's. says it's a water tube HX. NTI boilers are rare here, so I have limited experience with them.

    8.33 lbs./gal. x 60 min./hr. x 20°ΔT = 10,000 BTU's/hour

    Two btu per sq ft for degree difference for a slab
  • Dave Carpentier
    Dave Carpentier Member Posts: 620

    @hot_rod It seems like nearly all of the backyard pipe-pairs Ive casually seen appear to be at some minimum separation, with the required angle deflection etc. Thanks to your highlighting this, I will put our intake down the wall further (suspended ceiling space, so can go nearly anywhere).

    30+ yrs in telecom outside plant.
    Currently in building maintenance.
  • Alan (California Radiant) Forbes
    Alan (California Radiant) Forbes Member Posts: 4,212
    edited July 25

    “Dust, pollen, bugs getting sucked inside can be the biggest issues.”

    I’ve found that natural gas leftovers (aka coffee grounds) on Giannoni HX’s to be the biggest issues with low temperature systems as they will absorb acidic condensate that eats away at the HX and promotes failure.

    8.33 lbs./gal. x 60 min./hr. x 20°ΔT = 10,000 BTU's/hour

    Two btu per sq ft for degree difference for a slab
  • hot_rod
    hot_rod Member Posts: 23,271

    I'm not a fan of the concentric vent caps, and I would also go more than the 12" separation if possible.

    Some suggest vent through the roof, intake through the side wall. Or air from inside the space, vent through the side or roof, as the manufacturer, or code allows..

    Some mod cons are fairly noisy for neighbors when vented out the side wall.

    Bob "hot rod" Rohr
    trainer for Caleffi NA
    Living the hydronic dream