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Hydronic radiator

RayWohlfarth
RayWohlfarth Member Posts: 1,480
A friend called and said the radiator froze in his kitchen. Any idea where I can get one. The dimensions for the radiator is 43" from face to face of the valve and 90. This includes the brass fittings inside the radiator. Its 4 column, 29 1/2" high, 8 1/2" wide
Ray Wohlfarth
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  • GGross
    GGross Member Posts: 1,040
    US boiler classic rads are 29-9/16" H x 8-7/8" wide, Either your US boiler rep, or you could contact Governale, they are the the same and usually have a bunch of stock. If you are looking for used or refurbished I don't have a great source for that
    Alan (California Radiant) Forbes
  • mattmia2
    mattmia2 Member Posts: 9,622
    craigslist. facebook marketplace.
    kcopp
  • RayWohlfarth
    RayWohlfarth Member Posts: 1,480
    @GGross thanks I sent the link to Governale. Thanks
    @Larry Weingarten Thank you sir I sent the link to the customer
    @mattmia2 I couldn't believe I found some on Craigslist and sent the link. Thanks
    Ray Wohlfarth
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    mattmia2kcoppAlan (California Radiant) Forbes
  • Steamhead
    Steamhead Member Posts: 16,821
    That radiator has a rating of 69.3 square feet EDR. The replacement should be close to that amount, or the room may not heat well.
    All Steamed Up, Inc.
    Towson, MD, USA
    Steam, Vapor & Hot-Water Heating Specialists
    Oil & Gas Burner Service
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  • john123
    john123 Member Posts: 74
    Would a radiator in the picture by the OP be considered a 4 column or 5 column or a 5 tube????
  • john123
    john123 Member Posts: 74
    @Steamhead

    16 sections of 5--- 30" high--- tubes
    each section has 4 sq ft by interpolation (radiator scale)
    = approx 64 sq ft (radiator scale)
    I got that from Smithfieldsupply.com

    Are there more accurate charts?
  • EdTheHeaterMan
    EdTheHeaterMan Member Posts: 7,818
    edited March 2
    Wagner Salvage has a eBay store. I believe they are near Albany NY and will have just about any EDR rad you need. They test them and they ship all over. I have helped a person on HeatinHelp.com design a system using radiators purchased from Wagners. They were pleased with the results.

    Edward F Young. Retired HVAC ContractorSpecialized in Residential Oil Burner and Hydronics
  • Steamhead
    Steamhead Member Posts: 16,821
    john123 said:

    Would a radiator in the picture by the OP be considered a 4 column or 5 column or a 5 tube????

    john123 said:

    @Steamhead

    16 sections of 5--- 30" high--- tubes
    each section has 4 sq ft by interpolation (radiator scale)
    = approx 64 sq ft (radiator scale)
    I got that from Smithfieldsupply.com

    Are there more accurate charts?

    It's a 5-tube. The ratings on these were pretty much standardized by the time tube rads came out. Charts in @DanHolohan 's book "E.D.R." show each section having 4-1/3 square feet per section.
    All Steamed Up, Inc.
    Towson, MD, USA
    Steam, Vapor & Hot-Water Heating Specialists
    Oil & Gas Burner Service
    Consulting
  • Mad Dog_2
    Mad Dog_2 Member Posts: 6,882
    Ray. All the good second hand radiator shops are gone except, Mike's in Da Bronx.
    I'll check on Monday.  Mad Dog 🐕 
  • RayWohlfarth
    RayWohlfarth Member Posts: 1,480
    Thanks everyone I said it was a four and its actually 5. I appreciate the suggestions.
    Ray Wohlfarth
    Boiler Lessons
  • Mustangman
    Mustangman Member Posts: 81
    I guess I am fortunate as I have 2 guys that demo houses and save the radiators for resale. Kind of a funny story. These guys are first cousins and don’t get along. The one guy gets 5.00 per section regardless of how many columns. The other cousin is a pig. 25.00 per section. The cheaper guy has 2 trailers full. He has steam and hw. The pig has them sitting in a pile in his yard. I needed a Weil McLain concealed radiator and the cheaper guy had the exact one. I pressure tested it, had it sand blasted. It was perfect. They painted it and everyone was happy. I live in PA and would be happy to pass on the info. His set up is typical scrap yard. He doesn’t do email or computer. He is in his mid 80s. 5.00 a section is cheap. So I was willing to climb over 100 radiators to find it. 
    Mad Dog_2PC7060Alan (California Radiant) Forbes
  • psb75
    psb75 Member Posts: 830
    You also might imagine that there are a lot of used radiators in and around the city of Detroit.
    I found a nice stash of them in a warehouse right next to Henry Ford's old Model T manufactory.
  • Panheadsforever
    Panheadsforever Member Posts: 21
    Junkyard
  • RadicalRadiator
    RadicalRadiator Member Posts: 2
    edited March 13
    Malden Mass.
  • Were those radiators on a steam or hot water system?

    Maybe that's a stupid question. Without water, steam rads won't break?
    8.33 lbs./gal. x 60 min./hr. x 20°ΔT = 10,000 BTU's/hour

    Two btu per sq ft for degree difference for a slab
  • RayWohlfarth
    RayWohlfarth Member Posts: 1,480
    The customer contacted the insurance company and they are paying for a new heater for the kitchen and abandoning the hydronic radiator.
    Ray Wohlfarth
    Boiler Lessons