Hydronic radiator

RayWohlfarth

A friend called and said the radiator froze in his kitchen. Any idea where I can get one. The dimensions for the radiator is 43" from face to face of the valve and 90. This includes the brass fittings inside the radiator. Its 4 column, 29 1/2" high, 8 1/2" wide

GGross

US boiler classic rads are 29-9/16" H x 8-7/8" wide, Either your US boiler rep, or you could contact Governale, they are the the same and usually have a bunch of stock. If you are looking for used or refurbished I don't have a great source for that

Larry Weingarten

Maybe https://www.castrads.com/en/showrooms/soho-new-york/

Yours, Larry

mattmia2

craigslist. facebook marketplace.

RayWohlfarth

@GGross thanks I sent the link to Governale. Thanks
@Larry Weingarten Thank you sir I sent the link to the customer
@mattmia2 I couldn't believe I found some on Craigslist and sent the link. Thanks

Steamhead

That radiator has a rating of 69.3 square feet EDR. The replacement should be close to that amount, or the room may not heat well.

john123

Would a radiator in the picture by the OP be considered a 4 column or 5 column or a 5 tube????

john123

@Steamhead

16 sections of 5--- 30" high--- tubes
each section has 4 sq ft by interpolation (radiator scale)
= approx 64 sq ft (radiator scale)
I got that from Smithfieldsupply.com

Are there more accurate charts?

EdTheHeaterMan

Wagner Salvage has a eBay store. I believe they are near Albany NY and will have just about any EDR rad you need. They test them and they ship all over. I have helped a person on HeatinHelp.com design a system using radiators purchased from Wagners. They were pleased with the results.

Steamhead

john123 said:

Would a radiator in the picture by the OP be considered a 4 column or 5 column or a 5 tube????

john123 said:

@Steamhead

16 sections of 5--- 30" high--- tubes
each section has 4 sq ft by interpolation (radiator scale)
= approx 64 sq ft (radiator scale)
I got that from Smithfieldsupply.com

Are there more accurate charts?

It's a 5-tube. The ratings on these were pretty much standardized by the time tube rads came out. Charts in @DanHolohan 's book "E.D.R." show each section having 4-1/3 square feet per section.

Mad Dog_2

Ray. All the good second hand radiator shops are gone except, Mike's in Da Bronx.
I'll check on Monday.  Mad Dog 🐕 

RayWohlfarth

Thanks everyone I said it was a four and its actually 5. I appreciate the suggestions.

Mustangman

I guess I am fortunate as I have 2 guys that demo houses and save the radiators for resale. Kind of a funny story. These guys are first cousins and don’t get along. The one guy gets 5.00 per section regardless of how many columns. The other cousin is a pig. 25.00 per section. The cheaper guy has 2 trailers full. He has steam and hw. The pig has them sitting in a pile in his yard. I needed a Weil McLain concealed radiator and the cheaper guy had the exact one. I pressure tested it, had it sand blasted. It was perfect. They painted it and everyone was happy. I live in PA and would be happy to pass on the info. His set up is typical scrap yard. He doesn’t do email or computer. He is in his mid 80s. 5.00 a section is cheap. So I was willing to climb over 100 radiators to find it. 

psb75

You also might imagine that there are a lot of used radiators in and around the city of Detroit.
I found a nice stash of them in a warehouse right next to Henry Ford's old Model T manufactory.

Panheadsforever

Junkyard

RadicalRadiator

Malden Mass.

Alan (California Radiant) Forbes

Were those radiators on a steam or hot water system?

Maybe that's a stupid question. Without water, steam rads won't break?

RayWohlfarth

The customer contacted the insurance company and they are paying for a new heater for the kitchen and abandoning the hydronic radiator.