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Help needed to identify 2 rads and the EDR per section

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dronic123
dronic123 Member Posts: 13
edited February 20 in THE MAIN WALL
I have several rads (of type 1 below), each with different number of sections---- 13" wide and 23 1/2" high. Each section looks like 5 large heavy solid vertical bars between 2 very large heavy solid vertical end "posts". The square part of the "posts" is 3 1/8" deep. Could you help me ID the rad maker or rad design name and/or help me find the EDR of each section so that I can estimate the EDR of the various rads? please.

I also have several rads (of type 2 below), each with a different number of sections (and heights) with 4 bars total, each bar is about 1 3/8" deep and the total depth of the section is 6 1/4" deep. The rad in the picture is 28 1/2" high. Once again, any help you can give me in identifying the maker or the design name of the rad and/or help me find the EDR of each section, would be appreciated --so that I can find the EDR of the various rads?

When they talk about square footage of the rad, do they mean the square footage of the circumference of each bar or post or perhaps just the frontal square footage of the whole rad?

https://imgur.com/gallery/4Ewjb1U
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  • dronic123
    dronic123 Member Posts: 13
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    is there an easier way to attach a picture?

    https://imgur.com/a/G2fr1pB
    https://imgur.com/a/XQf4Jxw
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  • Big Ed_4
    Big Ed_4 Member Posts: 2,785
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    Find any radiator with the same dimensions and number of columns for the " Close enough EDR"

    There was an error rendering this rich post.

  • Steamhead
    Steamhead Member Posts: 16,842
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    Fortunately, radiators were pretty much standardized by the time these were made.

    The one with the supply and return on the same end is a standard large-tube type with a different piping hookup. Any chart for this type, such as American "Corto", National "Aero", U.S. "Capitol" etc. will suffice. The "four-tube" sections shown should run 2-1/4 square feet per section at that height. Other heights will have different ratings.

    The other type is a standard wall radiator, with a rating of 7 square feet per section.

    These are all in @DanHolohan 's book "E.D.R.".
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  • dronic123
    dronic123 Member Posts: 13
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    In example 2 ----with both pipes coming out at the bottom of one end---how is it likely to be piped internally? Could this have been originally a steam radiator (system) or do the 2 pipe holes at the bottom of one end eliminate this as a possibility?
  • Erin Holohan Haskell
    Erin Holohan Haskell Member, Moderator, Administrator Posts: 2,289
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    dronic123 said:

    is there an easier way to attach a picture?

    https://imgur.com/a/G2fr1pB
    https://imgur.com/a/XQf4Jxw

    @dronic123, you can click on the image icon in the toolbar to insert images. I've placed them in your post for you.



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  • mattmia2
    mattmia2 Member Posts: 9,662
    edited February 20
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    Note that you will size a new boiler by the heat loss of the structure, not by the connected EDR with a hot water system. If you are trying to figure out SWT or something like that then you need to know EDR.

    It was almost certainly always hot water, that arrangement might not work so well with steam but it would be fine with gravity hot water.
  • dronic123
    dronic123 Member Posts: 13
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    @mattmia2: thanks for your thoughts.

    Do you or anyone else have at least a guess as to the path the water would take? Obviously it should not circle around at the entry and exit ports but how would you prevent that happening?
  • dronic123
    dronic123 Member Posts: 13
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    @Erin Holohan Haskell I tried that on a windows laptop and on IOS ipad and clicked on the picture but the program wouldn't put the pic into the post???
  • Erin Holohan Haskell
    Erin Holohan Haskell Member, Moderator, Administrator Posts: 2,289
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    @dronic123, I sent you a PM so we can sort this out. Thanks!
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