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Request for help identifying radiant heating valve

nm99
nm99 Member Posts: 4
A number of our radiant heating valves have failed and require replacement. Unfortunately the original installer appears to no longer be in business, and neither our HVAC repairman nor the staff of the local HVAC supply store can identify the make or model. I have been able to confirm that they are not Uponor/Wirsbo products.

Assistance from anyone who can identify them from the attached photos (including one of the manifold, in case that's helpful) would be greatly appreciated. It's perhaps worth noting that the valves would have been originally installed in 2003.





Comments

  • EdTheHeaterMan
    EdTheHeaterMan Member Posts: 9,312
    ROTH made a radiant floor manifold that looked like Wirsbo. I wonder if it is a ROTH?

    Also check the European vendors.

    Edward Young Retired

    After you make that expensive repair and you still have the same problem, What will you check next?

  • hot_rod
    hot_rod Member Posts: 23,270
    Are you using actuators, or just the plastic caps?
    You might consider a new manifold, something like this if you are not zoning with actuators.
    so many manifolds looked like that, probably an OEM
    Legend, Embassy, vanguard, Heatway, most all the pex brands
    Bob "hot rod" Rohr
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  • nm99
    nm99 Member Posts: 4

    ROTH made a radiant floor manifold that looked like Wirsbo. I wonder if it is a ROTH?

    Also check the European vendors.

    Thanks for the suggestion. I couldn't find any similar manifolds or valves in the current Roth catalog, so it would seem that they no longer make the Wirsbo lookalike. I have made an extensive search of valves available online, including from European vendors, without finding anything that matches.
  • nm99
    nm99 Member Posts: 4
    hot_rod said:

    Are you using actuators, or just the plastic caps?
    You might consider a new manifold, something like this if you are not zoning with actuators.
    so many manifolds looked like that, probably an OEM
    Legend, Embassy, vanguard, Heatway, most all the pex brands

    Thanks for your response to my questions. We have two manifolds like this, one with actuators, and the one in the attached image just with valves and plastic caps that depress the valves by a variable amount for zone balancing. We'll probably have to replace the manifolds if we can't find suitable replacement valves, it would be better to avoid that due to the considerable cost.
  • I think you’re going to have to bite the bullet here as those pin valves are going to be very hard to find. Not only do the threads have to match, but also the throw length (travel) of the valve. 
    8.33 lbs./gal. x 60 min./hr. x 20°ΔT = 10,000 BTU's/hour

    Two btu per sq ft for degree difference for a slab
  • nm99
    nm99 Member Posts: 4

    I think you’re going to have to bite the bullet here as those pin valves are going to be very hard to find. Not only do the threads have to match, but also the throw length (travel) of the valve. 

    You're probably right. It seemed worth a try, though, since I doubt the original installer used anything really obscure.