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Mar 10, 1903: When escutcheons were ESCUTCHEONS!

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SteamFTW
SteamFTW Member Posts: 76
in THE MAIN WALL
Just a photo of a moment in time. Look at the height of the raised letters! This isn't flimsy chromed sheet metal.


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  • EdTheHeaterMan
    EdTheHeaterMan Member Posts: 7,834
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    Did that have a lifetime warranty?

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  • Mad Dog_2
    Mad Dog_2 Member Posts: 6,922
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    You're killing me!!!! I need about 15,,,mostly 1" I.P.S. I'd paint that in black magic and golf leaf on the Raised letters. Mad Dog
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  • SteamFTW
    SteamFTW Member Posts: 76
    edited February 2023
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    I'm in the same boat, @Mad Dog_2! The house that this came out of (circa 1918) needs about that many. Was that photo you posted last week [ https://forum.heatinghelp.com/discussion/comment/1733728/#Comment_1733728 ] was that 1" pipe??? LOL. I used that photo to show the homeowner what we're up against.
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  • ChrisJ
    ChrisJ Member Posts: 15,672
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    SteamFTW said:

    Just a photo of a moment in time. Look at the height of the raised letters! This isn't flimsy chromed sheet metal.


    How did it get cracked?
    Single pipe quasi-vapor system. Typical operating pressure 0.14 - 0.43 oz. EcoSteam ES-20 Advanced Control for Residential Steam boilers. Rectorseal Steamaster water treatment
  • SteamFTW
    SteamFTW Member Posts: 76
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    @ChrisJ I wonder the same thing. I'm going to ask, but I doubt they know. I think it has been sitting around a pipe that hasn't seen the light of day in a long time. Forgot to take a picture of the topside. I'll do that when I'm there this week. I don't recall there being any sign of impact, though.
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  • gmcinnes
    gmcinnes Member Posts: 118
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    Why, an average man would have to work for 2 years to afford a house full of those escutcheons in 1903 my good fellow!
  • ChrisJ
    ChrisJ Member Posts: 15,672
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    gmcinnes said:

    Why, an average man would have to work for 2 years to afford a house full of those escutcheons in 1903 my good fellow!

    Cast iron, especially when mass produced isn't exactly expensive.

    Those wouldn't be as cheap as stamped ones, but they wouldn't be extremely expensive either.
    Single pipe quasi-vapor system. Typical operating pressure 0.14 - 0.43 oz. EcoSteam ES-20 Advanced Control for Residential Steam boilers. Rectorseal Steamaster water treatment
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  • SteamFTW
    SteamFTW Member Posts: 76
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    ChrisJ said:


    How did it get cracked?

    @ChrisJ Here's a photo of the topside. I don't see anything obvious to explain the break.

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  • reggi
    reggi Member Posts: 511
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    The carpet installers were probably the last ones to mess with them 
    One way to get familiar something you know nothing about is to ask a really smart person a really stupid question
  • ChrisJ
    ChrisJ Member Posts: 15,672
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    reggi said:

    The carpet installers were probably the last ones to mess with them 

    What carpet installers?
    Single pipe quasi-vapor system. Typical operating pressure 0.14 - 0.43 oz. EcoSteam ES-20 Advanced Control for Residential Steam boilers. Rectorseal Steamaster water treatment
  • reggi
    reggi Member Posts: 511
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    ChrisJ said:
    The carpet installers were probably the last ones to mess with them 
    What carpet installers?
    Well the floor finishers,  the maid or the the brass polisher , whoever had a thought that it would be easy peasy to remove it like the plasunimin ones you have around your metric piping 
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  • JWoodoff
    JWoodoff Member Posts: 10
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    I especially like Tim's model, where the decorative design obscures the joints. I've long had a question about the solid (not split) cast-iron escutcheons at the tops of the steam risers in my 4-story building. They have a set screw on the side, holding the escutcheon against the pipe. This means when the heat is off there's a considerable gap between the escutcheon and the ceiling, especially up on the 4th floor. Why weren't these made to be fixed to the ceiling, with the riser sliding through as it expands and contracts?
  • lukewatts
    lukewatts Member Posts: 7
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    We have just designed and manufactured some solid brass escutcheons - I'm afraid they don't have the old school charm with patent and date but they certainly look great, are solid and really easy to install as a retrofit!

    They're designed to clip together like jigsaw puzzle pieces and have magnets to provide extra stability.





    You can see them here...

    https://www.castrads.com/us/product/escutcheons/?gclid=CjwKCAiA3KefBhByEiwAi2LDHBWeNz8rXd639PQvZw5PkCPD8Oruapo2ftLawCinXOW7qNN4-FDPERoCYLkQAvD_BwE&goal=0_75ca0296b0-7d0e178c60-452149809&mc_cid=7d0e178c60&mc_eid=dbb48ce25a

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