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Steam vent valve tongue

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twix
twix Member Posts: 17
Do steam vents NEED a tongue for condensate? I'm looking at adapters like this one and they say they are compatible with steam, but do not have tongues.

https://www.supplyhouse.com/sh/control/product/~product_id=013G0140

This one says 1-pipe compatible, and install instructions do not say anything about a tongue.

Is it the end of the world if there is no tongue?

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  • KC_Jones
    KC_Jones Member Posts: 5,739
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    It shouldn't matter at all. Most vents don't have the tongue.
    2014 Weil Mclain EG-40
    EcoSteam ES-20 Advanced Boiler Control
    Boiler pictures updated 2/21/15
    twix
  • twix
    twix Member Posts: 17
    edited January 2023
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    Actually, I see this in the documentation for the valve:

    The venting action occurs during each system (boiler) on-cycle only
    when heat is required. Air will re-enter the radiator during the system
    off-cycle via a patented “‘across the seat” vacuum breaker. This
    eliminates condensate build-up
    and allows natural system aspiration
    to occur.
  • EdTheHeaterMan
    EdTheHeaterMan Member Posts: 7,859
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    twix said:



    Is it the end of the world if there is no tongue?

    Probably not the end of the world. In fact, Many have used them without even a tremor.

    Edward Young Retired

    After you make that expensive repair and you still have the same problem, What will you check next?

    twix
  • twix
    twix Member Posts: 17
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    Excellent! Thank you. So providing I'm not running a full vacuum system (I'm not) and the rad pitch is correct, I should be ok.
  • KC_Jones
    KC_Jones Member Posts: 5,739
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    I have the valve you posted on my system, zero issue. Also, none of my regular vents have a tongue and zero issues. So yes, you should be ok.
    2014 Weil Mclain EG-40
    EcoSteam ES-20 Advanced Boiler Control
    Boiler pictures updated 2/21/15
    twix
  • JUGHNE
    JUGHNE Member Posts: 11,062
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    The condensate build up is the water in the rad not returning without the vac bkr letting air into the rad after boiler cycle.

    This has been discussed here somewhat.

    With your vent vertical it should drain any cond that might build up within it.
    twixmattmia2
  • twix
    twix Member Posts: 17
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    Thanks everyone.