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Manual for my boiler

Ozmat
Ozmat Member Posts: 15
I am trying to find out as much information I can about the steam system installed in my house. More importantly, the boiler itself. There seems to be eight valves and three by-pass loops going to and from the steam traps and the main. The original boiler has been replaced with a Crane 300 series gas boiler. The valves and steam traps are all original.

The house warms up nicely when the system is operating, I am just not sure of all the valve positioning, especially with these by-pass loops. I would like to find an operators manual from 1930 on this system. Rriigghhtt.


Is anyone familiar with what I have?


hot_rod

Comments

  • mattmia2
    mattmia2 Member Posts: 6,589
    edited September 28
    What name is on those devices? What about the steam traps on the radiators and the radiator valves? That is usually a clue to what system it was. it could just be an ordinary 2 pipe system and those are just crossover traps that connect the mains to the returns.

    Most of the valves are probably for service and flushing except for the one that looks like it is the water feed.
  • random12345
    random12345 Member Posts: 293
    More pictures please. How old is this boiler? The Crane 300 I mean.
  • EBEBRATT-Ed
    EBEBRATT-Ed Member Posts: 12,620
    edited September 28
    @Ozmat

    Your not going to find a manual. What you need is the book "lost art of steam heat" available on this site.

    Steam system is not like a car or a washing machine. It is built up on the job out of different parts and pieces........not a factory built package. .....By the book it will be your best help
    mattmia2EdTheHeaterMan
  • mattmia2
    mattmia2 Member Posts: 6,589
    There are some more pictures on some of his other posts. With those check valves in the return it looks like it might be a hoffman system.
  • STEVEusaPA
    STEVEusaPA Member Posts: 5,869
    Your best bet is to find one of the steam guru's on this site, have them come over for inspection/tune up, and have them go over the system with you-all the things you need to do, and all the things to call them to do.
    steve
  • Ozmat
    Ozmat Member Posts: 15
    Thanks. Anyone in the Charlotte area? There are no company’s around here that work on this type of system. I do have the book, “We Got Steam Heat”, it has been very helpful. No way I trust anyone checking this system out after talking to some of these companies on the phone.

    If anyone knows of someone around Charlotte to take a look, it would be appreciated.

    I will send more pictures in a few days.

    Thanks for all the information and wisdom.

  • neilc
    neilc Member Posts: 2,005
    post better pictures of those trap/gizmos shown at the end of the other pictures,
    try to get any embossed writings on them,
    and how they're piped,
    known to beat dead horses
  • Steamhead
    Steamhead Member Posts: 15,637
    mattmia2 said:

    What name is on those devices? What about the steam traps on the radiators and the radiator valves? That is usually a clue to what system it was. it could just be an ordinary 2 pipe system and those are just crossover traps that connect the mains to the returns.

    Most of the valves are probably for service and flushing except for the one that looks like it is the water feed.

    The device on the right says "Webster" on it. It is a Boiler Return Trap which is more properly a pressure-powered pump that can return the condensate if the boiler pressure gets too high.

    I can't see a name on the other one, but it is a large air vent. Unless the system is very large, it is the only vent in the system.

    This tells me you have a Vapor system. This was the Cadillac of heating in its day, and is still one of the best out there. Get this book:

    https://heatinghelp.com/store/detail/the-lost-art-of-steam-heating-revisited

    Webster Vapor systems are covered in chapter 15.
    All Steamed Up, Inc.
    Towson, MD, USA
    Steam, Vapor & Hot-Water Heating Specialists
    Oil & Gas Burner Service
    Consulting
    mattmia2
  • EdTheHeaterMan
    EdTheHeaterMan Member Posts: 4,177
    Ozmat said:

    Thanks. Anyone in the Charlotte area? There are no company’s around here that work on this type of system. I do have the book, “We Got Steam Heat”, it has been very helpful. No way I trust anyone checking this system out after talking to some of these companies on the phone.

    If anyone knows of someone around Charlotte to take a look, it would be appreciated.

    I will send more pictures in a few days.

    Thanks for all the information and wisdom.

    I'm retired in Charleston SC (with a tropical storm on its way).
    I'm also in a wheelchair, but if there is access I would be open to looking at this for you, the next time I head north. You will want to purchase this book before I get there. https://heatinghelp.com/store/detail/we-got-steam-heat-a-homeowners-guide-to-peaceful-coexistence
    Edward Young
    Retired HVAC Contractor from So. Jersey.
    Services first oil burner at age 16
    P/T trainer for EH-CC.org