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Carlin 150FRD?

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SuperTech
SuperTech Member Posts: 2,166
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Hey everyone.  I'm hoping someone can give me a little insight on something I came across today. I was called to check out an old HB Smith boiler reportedly from the 50s for no circulation, the B&G 100 on a old gravity circulation setup was frozen up and will be replaced tomorrow.  The thing I am wondering about is the oil burner on this beast, I'm told it has two burners both 1.00 80A. It had an old Jimi Hendrix style oil burner with a J strainer and a solenoid valve. The primary control was a newer R8184G. I saw markings on the wall from a few months before I was born in 1979 that reported 10% CO2 and 79% efficiency. I was highly recommended by the owners father for service of this location, I was hoping to find some information about this burner which I could swear was a Carlin 150 FRD, it's definitely not the current funnel flame design burner. 

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  • STEVEusaPA
    STEVEusaPA Member Posts: 6,505
    edited January 2022
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    SuperTech said:

    ... I'm told it has two burners both 1.00 80A. It had an old Jimi Hendrix style ...

    Two nozzles?
    I have a complete Carlin engineering manual from about 1987. It only mentions it as 'discontinued' with no additional information.
    Maybe @EBEBRATT-Ed or @Alan R. Mercurio may know something.
    Did you try reaching out to Bruce Graham @ Carlin (or anyone @ Carlin)?

    I'll let you slide on stealing my 'Jimi Hendrix' reference..lol

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  • Steamhead
    Steamhead Member Posts: 16,842
    edited January 2022
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    Here is some vintage Carlin info- it pays to wander off the Wall:

    https://heatinghelp.com/heating-museum/carlin-oil-burners-and-water-heater-handbook/

    They show a 150N as well as the FRD. The 150N was flame-retention but used a 1725-RPM motor. The "D" in FRD stands for Double-Speed, with a 3450-RPM motor. You should be able to narrow it down a bit just from the motor speed.

    The FRD models are wayyyyy down there- keep scrolling.
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  • STEVEusaPA
    STEVEusaPA Member Posts: 6,505
    edited January 2022
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    Funny I asked on George's FB page and someone posted the same link as @Steamhead .
    Wow...1966.

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  • EBEBRATT-Ed
    EBEBRATT-Ed Member Posts: 15,540
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    @SuperTech

    With that burner I an going to take a wild guess the boiler is a Smith 2000L or 200 or one of those variations.

    2000L was a "lo set" boiler where the sections set on some 1" channell on the floor with no real combustion chamber and no fire door.

    The 200 was the same boiler up on a CI base with a combustion chamber and a fire door above it

    Those were the first of the 3450 burners made by Carlin although Iron Fireman was doing it (with 300# oil pumps) back in the late 50s. Took the other manufacturers 20 years to catch up.
    SuperTechCokomo
  • SuperTech
    SuperTech Member Posts: 2,166
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    It must be a 2000L from the description.  It has two nozzles, not burners. That was a typo on my behalf. I'm going back there this morning and I will take some pictures, I doubt I will come across this burner again.  Looking forward to reading the information provided by @Steamhead. Thanks again everyone for the information.  
  • SuperTech
    SuperTech Member Posts: 2,166
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    It was indeed an HB Smith 2000L. Here's some pictures from my return visit today. Gotta love the one with the snakeskin on the return pipe.
  • SuperTech
    SuperTech Member Posts: 2,166
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    One more I almost forgot about, the combustion results on the wall. I was wrong about the 150FRD being a "Jimi Hendrix style burner". It's not like this Volcano Jimi burner I spotted elsewhere. 
  • EBEBRATT-Ed
    EBEBRATT-Ed Member Posts: 15,540
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    @SuperTech

    Yah, that's the 2000L lo set. Early 70s is my guess. Too bad they let the tankless heater gasket go to hell. Smith did one thing right. The studs on the tankless are actually nuts and bolts, the threads are not tapped into the boiler so those are easy to change
    SuperTech

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