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Carlin 150FRD?

SuperTech
SuperTech Member Posts: 2,519
Hey everyone.  I'm hoping someone can give me a little insight on something I came across today. I was called to check out an old HB Smith boiler reportedly from the 50s for no circulation, the B&G 100 on a old gravity circulation setup was frozen up and will be replaced tomorrow.  The thing I am wondering about is the oil burner on this beast, I'm told it has two burners both 1.00 80A. It had an old Jimi Hendrix style oil burner with a J strainer and a solenoid valve. The primary control was a newer R8184G. I saw markings on the wall from a few months before I was born in 1979 that reported 10% CO2 and 79% efficiency. I was highly recommended by the owners father for service of this location, I was hoping to find some information about this burner which I could swear was a Carlin 150 FRD, it's definitely not the current funnel flame design burner. 

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  • STEVEusaPA
    STEVEusaPA Member Posts: 6,505
    edited January 2022
    SuperTech said:

    ... I'm told it has two burners both 1.00 80A. It had an old Jimi Hendrix style ...

    Two nozzles?
    I have a complete Carlin engineering manual from about 1987. It only mentions it as 'discontinued' with no additional information.
    Maybe @EBEBRATT-Ed or @Alan R. Mercurio may know something.
    Did you try reaching out to Bruce Graham @ Carlin (or anyone @ Carlin)?

    I'll let you slide on stealing my 'Jimi Hendrix' reference..lol

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  • Steamhead
    Steamhead Member Posts: 17,605
    edited January 2022
    Here is some vintage Carlin info- it pays to wander off the Wall:

    https://heatinghelp.com/heating-museum/carlin-oil-burners-and-water-heater-handbook/

    They show a 150N as well as the FRD. The 150N was flame-retention but used a 1725-RPM motor. The "D" in FRD stands for Double-Speed, with a 3450-RPM motor. You should be able to narrow it down a bit just from the motor speed.

    The FRD models are wayyyyy down there- keep scrolling.
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  • STEVEusaPA
    STEVEusaPA Member Posts: 6,505
    edited January 2022
    Funny I asked on George's FB page and someone posted the same link as @Steamhead .
    Wow...1966.

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  • EBEBRATT-Ed
    EBEBRATT-Ed Member Posts: 17,185
    @SuperTech

    With that burner I an going to take a wild guess the boiler is a Smith 2000L or 200 or one of those variations.

    2000L was a "lo set" boiler where the sections set on some 1" channell on the floor with no real combustion chamber and no fire door.

    The 200 was the same boiler up on a CI base with a combustion chamber and a fire door above it

    Those were the first of the 3450 burners made by Carlin although Iron Fireman was doing it (with 300# oil pumps) back in the late 50s. Took the other manufacturers 20 years to catch up.
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  • SuperTech
    SuperTech Member Posts: 2,519
    It must be a 2000L from the description.  It has two nozzles, not burners. That was a typo on my behalf. I'm going back there this morning and I will take some pictures, I doubt I will come across this burner again.  Looking forward to reading the information provided by @Steamhead. Thanks again everyone for the information.  
  • SuperTech
    SuperTech Member Posts: 2,519
    It was indeed an HB Smith 2000L. Here's some pictures from my return visit today. Gotta love the one with the snakeskin on the return pipe.
  • SuperTech
    SuperTech Member Posts: 2,519
    One more I almost forgot about, the combustion results on the wall. I was wrong about the 150FRD being a "Jimi Hendrix style burner". It's not like this Volcano Jimi burner I spotted elsewhere. 
  • EBEBRATT-Ed
    EBEBRATT-Ed Member Posts: 17,185
    @SuperTech

    Yah, that's the 2000L lo set. Early 70s is my guess. Too bad they let the tankless heater gasket go to ****. Smith did one thing right. The studs on the tankless are actually nuts and bolts, the threads are not tapped into the boiler so those are easy to change
    SuperTech