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Double fintube piping

Hello all,

 I’m installing a slantfin commercial double-stack,18’ long at home. I typically install new-build, engineer designed hydronic systems.  My supplier sales rep was incredibly helpful with my reno design for home. His suggestion was to pipe the top and bottom elements as a reverse-return, rather than in series. Now that I’m ready to install, I’m thinking supply the top and return the bottom would provide better heat transfer and save some work. My thoughts:

reverse-return = half the length is counterflow to the air; half is parallel

 series = all counterflow (typically recommended for heat exchangers)

Any thoughts or documentation?

Comments

  • EBEBRATT-Ed
    EBEBRATT-Ed Member Posts: 16,477
    You will get more heat if you supply each row in parallel rather than in series because your average water temp will stay higher.

    Is it worth it? Depends

    Figure out your water flow and temperature drop through each section and see what is better.

    Example using run of the mill baseboard:

    18' of baseboard x 550 BTUs/foot (yours may differ) @190 supply water say 4 gpm=9,900btus

    Water temp drop 4.95 deg so 190-185.05

    So piped in parallel temp drop is about 5 deg
    in series about 10 degrees

    At 1 gpm piped in parallel temperature drop is 20 degrees
    in series 40 degrees

    So it makes a big difference you need to know your flow and water temp

    If you have enough flow series or parallel doesn't matter

    Keep in mind with stacked radiation you don't get double the btus of a single element because a double stack reduces the air flow
    kcopp
  • Jamie306A
    Jamie306A Member Posts: 4
    The heat run is dedicated to this baseboard. The flow rate is adjustable and it’s adequately sized no matter which way I pipe it. I’m just a theory/ numbers kinda guy; shooting for my 20*dT. 
  • EBEBRATT-Ed
    EBEBRATT-Ed Member Posts: 16,477
    @Jamie306A

    Then I would pipe it in series your probably somewhere around 2 gpm
    Jamie306A
  • Rich_49
    Rich_49 Member Posts: 2,769
    Piping it in parallel will give highest output . If you pipe with one supply and return Top supply and bottom return will output better than bottom s , top r . You can see it here from a different manufacturer , but physics is physics . https://smithsep.com/wp-content/uploads/Heating-Edge-2-Literature-2.pdf
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  • EBEBRATT-Ed
    EBEBRATT-Ed Member Posts: 16,477
    Yes but with only and 18' run on it's own zone the difference is insignificant