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"Master venting" approach

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DougP
DougP Member Posts: 13
A Weil Mclain peg 30, heats 18 radiators on 5 different floors. Until last week, the top floor apt was always the coldest. The boiler in the sub basement some 40 + feet below had to push all this air out before the heating up the radiators could begin. Sometimes when the thermostat was catching up by a degree or two, the top floor radiators would not even warm up. In revisiting The Lost Art of Steam Heating (p.118) Gerety's "master venting" I found the solution, the top

floor apt is now the warmest in the building , I am now playing with the venting config to maybe slow it down a bit (have Gorton D's on risers and rads, possibly too much too fast, a welcome problem to have) so thank you John Mills, Frank Gerety and Dan
thank you for the link to the one pipe steam manual and everything else
MikeAmann

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  • EBEBRATT-Ed
    EBEBRATT-Ed Member Posts: 15,527
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    When it comes to steam Venting is everything!!

    Glad it's working

    In the old days when coal burner 24 hours a day that system was probably fine. When converted to oil or gas..............things didn't work so well
  • Dfern8686
    Dfern8686 Member Posts: 3
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    Question to this topic if ya dont mind me hijacking the thread..Any benefits to master venting my 2nd floor rads (i.e. adding a vent above the valve as you have pictured). I only have a 2 1/2 story single fam home, one pipe system with about 6-7 rads. And two main vents on antlers on one end. Just wondering how I can quickly get any air out of my system for more efficiency. I know there are also cons of heating too quickly and too much condensation.. appreciate any feedback..

    Thanks
    Dan


  • mattmia2
    mattmia2 Member Posts: 9,653
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    Unless the risers are unusually large or there is a long runnout either in the basement or between floors you can probably accomplish it with a faster radiator vent. Think about the volume of 10' of 1.25' pipefor the riser vs the volume of the radiator, it is only like having maybe a 1/3 larger radiator. The op has 5 floors so it is about 4x that. even at that one vent would probably be more than enough. Unless the piping is unusually long, if a fast vent doesn't get it heating quickly it is more likely you have condensate trapped in the runout either in the basement or between the floors.
    Dfern8686
  • dabrakeman
    dabrakeman Member Posts: 552
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    @DougP I will have to consider that for a room I have that is under-radiated and has a long runout. To me it seems there is an advantage to doing this over just using a big radiator vent. A big radiator vent as I have tried leads to steam reaching the vent quite regularly on cold days or slight recoveries with my oversized boiler. I like the idea of just getting the steam to the radiator quicker (quicker than the other rads) but venting it at a more normal rate.
    Dfern8686