Welcome! Here are the website rules, as well as some tips for using this forum.
Need to contact us? Visit https://heatinghelp.com/contact-us/.
Click here to Find a Contractor in your area.
Building a buffer tank
hot_rod
Member Posts: 23,378
Actually moving this 6 gallon from our old home that we demoed.
This will have a high temperature fin tube zone 150F or so at design, spare zone for indirect. Lochinvar Nobel running ODR, the radiant in slab zones will modulate proportionally with a manual 3 way mix valve. First time trying a 2 temperature system with a manual valve.
Boiler sensor in the tank well.
6 gallon in the tank, 1.4 in the Nobel, misc piping = @9 gallon
A 4500 W element gives me 15,000 BTU/hr for LP back up.
1-1/4x 1 tee with a 3/4 mipX 1" copper adapter increases the 3/4 side ports to 1-1/4" easily.
This will have a high temperature fin tube zone 150F or so at design, spare zone for indirect. Lochinvar Nobel running ODR, the radiant in slab zones will modulate proportionally with a manual 3 way mix valve. First time trying a 2 temperature system with a manual valve.
Boiler sensor in the tank well.
6 gallon in the tank, 1.4 in the Nobel, misc piping = @9 gallon
A 4500 W element gives me 15,000 BTU/hr for LP back up.
1-1/4x 1 tee with a 3/4 mipX 1" copper adapter increases the 3/4 side ports to 1-1/4" easily.
Bob "hot rod" Rohr
trainer for Caleffi NA
Living the hydronic dream
trainer for Caleffi NA
Living the hydronic dream
2
Comments
-
-
I am assuming you are going to be piping the relief valve in to the external piping? This looks like a pretty cool idea though. Will be interesting to see how it performs.
PS. I came up with 17,680 btu's with that element. Did I miss something? I am remembering it as 3913 btu's per kilowatt, but it has been a really long day.
Rick0 -
thanks Rick. I installed this tank in 2017, it has been working as expected. I have not tried the electric element back up yet. I'm moving the tank from one building to another now.
3.41 is the conversion, KW to BTU. I remember it being a number switch from π which is 3.14.
I've found you can also buy 5500 and 6000 watt elements, which will still run on a 30 A circuit, although the 6KW are longer and do not fit into all tanks.
5500÷ 240= 23A
6000÷ 240= 25ABob "hot rod" Rohr
trainer for Caleffi NA
Living the hydronic dream0 -
More coffee this morning! Now I remember it is 3413, instead of 3913. I like the pi conversion thought. Makes sense. I am thinking of using just the tank with the higher element for a customer who has a small shop space with just one loop. I still don't like the idea of using electric here due to the cost, but it is only a small space with one loop and he keeps the heat around 45, so it shouldn't be to bad to heat.
Rick0 -
Great tank idea, there is a time and place for electric back up or supplement.Bob "hot rod" Rohr
trainer for Caleffi NA
Living the hydronic dream0
Categories
- All Categories
- 86.3K THE MAIN WALL
- 3.1K A-C, Heat Pumps & Refrigeration
- 53 Biomass
- 422 Carbon Monoxide Awareness
- 90 Chimneys & Flues
- 2K Domestic Hot Water
- 5.4K Gas Heating
- 100 Geothermal
- 156 Indoor-Air Quality
- 3.4K Oil Heating
- 63 Pipe Deterioration
- 916 Plumbing
- 6K Radiant Heating
- 381 Solar
- 14.9K Strictly Steam
- 3.3K Thermostats and Controls
- 54 Water Quality
- 41 Industry Classes
- 47 Job Opportunities
- 17 Recall Announcements