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Biasi B10-05, Carlin Burner and HydroStat installed

ItalItal Posts: 20Member
Hi All,
Just wanted to provide an update on my new install for my Hydro Air system.
I decided together with my service contractor to go with the
* Biasi B10 oil boiler
* Carlin EZ one burner
* HydroStat low water cut off module

We decided not to go with the outdoor sensor since my house has a lot of open space and takes time to heat up. Also where I live in CT we have very cold winters. However the HydroStat module we went with has some very neat feature that we set which should save on consummations and simulate an outdoor sensor to some degree.
* We set the max temp to 180F
* Max Zones 2

Now because we set Zones to 2, the temperature in the boiler has not really gone passed 150F
Depending on how the system operates I can choose to increase or lower the Zones which would determine how fast the house heats up and how much energy is used.

We also decided to try to see what kind of results we get with using a .8 GPH nozzle, we are hoping to reduce overall consumption this way. If we need more BTU we will increase with to 1GPH

I did add the Hydronic inhibitor but then my Smart Tacos water pumps were blinking white which indicates there was air in the pipes, so we had to flush all the water out to get the rid of the air, thus I am thinking the inhibitor is all gone now. I will have it added back in next year.

Thank you all for the help and advise

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  • ItalItal Posts: 20Member
    edited April 24
    here are some pictures: I will have to get rid of the rust stains on my floor that my busted weil mclain left behind.





  • SteamheadSteamhead Posts: 13,132Member
    Looks like a nice neat job, and I see you already have an air separator.

    Especially on a zoned system, the HydroStat's energy-saving mode should make a difference, and it can also do outdoor reset by adding the proper sensor if you later decide to go that route. It's a nice control.
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  • ItalItal Posts: 20Member
    Steamhead said:

    Looks like a nice neat job, and I see you already have an air separator.

    Especially on a zoned system, the HydroStat's energy-saving mode should make a difference, and it can also do outdoor reset by adding the proper sensor if you later decide to go that route. It's a nice control.

    I had bought the sensor to plug in with the HydroStat but right before he started to drill I decided not to go for it for now.
  • HVACNUTHVACNUT Posts: 2,330Member
    edited April 28
    Using the ODR with the 3250 Plus will save over Thermal targeting. Colder weather and an open floor plan is not a concern. You can always adjust the DD setting.
    Nice job also. You and your service tech would benefit from mounting a 10 micron spin on filter assembly to the left side of the jacket and run a 36" braided fuel line to the pump. Easier to swing out the door. And a better filter.
    Is .80 the nozzle size or the actual firing rate? Does QHT say you increase the firing rate for that specific B10?
    Was there a stainless chimney liner installed or was it discussed?
  • STEVEusaPASTEVEusaPA Posts: 3,083Member
    I also don't like the filter hanging where weight and gravity could cause it to drop. Nor do I like the hokey iron T fitting with the cap.
    steve
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  • ItalItal Posts: 20Member
    edited April 30
    I can always install the sensor later but not sure I wanna drill for now. I do not have a liner, it plugs right into my chimney which is probably 8x8 square mesonary. The option of steel lining was not discussed with me and probably an expensive option. Not sure how much would that benefit me.
    The Carlin burner came with 3 nozzles, not sure what QHT means but the B10-5 on the specs it calls for a 1.05GPH nozzle. I was happy when my service guy said we can use a smaller .8GPH nozzle, he say it might run longer but it's more effcient, so far it has been working great. Thanks for the feedback, much appreciated
  • HVACNUTHVACNUT Posts: 2,330Member
    QHT- Quincey Heating Technology. The parent company of Biasi.
    The B-5 should have a .85 GPH nozzle @ 150 psi pump pressure = 1.00 GPH input.
  • ItalItal Posts: 20Member
    Ok... did not know that will need to do more reading :) all I know my weil mclain had a 1 gph nozzle thus I hope I will save some oil. It's been running good and a smell no fumes so that is always a plus
  • HVACNUTHVACNUT Posts: 2,330Member
    Then it's the same firing rate as the old boiler, but by design, the Biasi will be much more efficient than the WM.
    I didnt look back at the other posts but draft was set properly, 0 smoke and a digital combustion analysis were all done?
  • ItalItal Posts: 20Member
    Absolutely NOT, lol
    I could ask my installer about it but I think he will just laugh at me. I trust him and I known him for many years. Heck I pretty much consider him a friend. I can tell he is very knowledgeable and been doing this for many years. He has a team he manages for a large HVAC company and they all call him when something needs to be adjusted or tweaked.
    From what I can tell it is running like a champ if that means anything :)
  • STEVEusaPASTEVEusaPA Posts: 3,083Member
    Ital said:


    From what I can tell it is running like a champ if that means anything :)

    That really means nothing. Without being properly set with the proper instruments and skills, it could sound good, look good, and soot up the entire boiler and even the house. Or it good be making tons of CO and any products of combustion spilling into the living space could be deadly.
    steve
  • ItalItal Posts: 20Member
    for what is worth I do have carbon monoxide monitor near it and its not being triggered :wink:
    If we were getting soot, I can assure you I would know. I appreciate the feedback but from what I can tell there is 0 smoke
    I will ask to do a 0 smoke and a digital combustion analysis on my next tune up.

    Thank you
  • HVACNUTHVACNUT Posts: 2,330Member
    > @Ital said:
    > for what is worth I do have carbon monoxide monitor near it and its not being triggered :wink:
    > If we were getting soot, I can assure you I would know. I appreciate the feedback but from what I can tell there is 0 smoke
    > I will ask to do a 0 smoke and a digital combustion analysis on my next tune up.
    >
    > Thank you

    It is extremely important that it gets done. It's not the 70's when most oil burners were nothing more than glorified blow torches. You didnt pay to have a boiler installed. You paid for a high efficiency heating system with a 21st century burner. Your vehicle needs to pass an emissions test yearly correct?
    Today's burners need today's technology. The Beckett Genisys primary on the burner for instance. I can connect my contractor tool to it and change all the parameters by entering a few commands. I can even lock it out so you cant have heat. Haha.
    If he's not properly equipped, get a service agreement with a reliable heating contractor. But still keep him as a friend.
  • SteamheadSteamhead Posts: 13,132Member
    That burner has a Carlin primary, not a GeniSys.
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  • ItalItal Posts: 20Member
    > @Steamhead said:
    > That burner has a Carlin primary, not a GeniSys.

    Can I still ask to do the ask a 0 smoke and a digital combustion analysis with the Carlin burner correct?
  • STEVEusaPASTEVEusaPA Posts: 3,083Member
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    Ital said:

    > @Steamhead said:

    > That burner has a Carlin primary, not a GeniSys.



    Can I still ask to do the ask a 0 smoke and a digital combustion analysis with the Carlin burner correct?

    Yes, should be SOP--steady state, proper draft, true zero smoke, analyzer.

    steve
  • HVACNUTHVACNUT Posts: 2,330Member
    > @Steamhead said:
    > That burner has a Carlin primary, not a GeniSys.

    Yes I know. I was just generalizing the differences between older and newer.
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