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Webstone valves for primary secondary
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I saw these valves, I’m the first one to say press is great. Gets me in and out very fast https://www.supplyhouse.com/Webstone-88655-1-1-4-x-1-1-4-Press-Full-Port-Brass-Ball-Valve-w-Reversible-Handle-Primary-Secondary-Loop-Purge-Tee
Spacificle for a condensing boiler in a closet where there is no space I’m going to call the rep on Monday.
Spacificle for a condensing boiler in a closet where there is no space I’m going to call the rep on Monday.
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2 copper press tees will accomplish the same thing at a fraction of the cost. The only extra labor is cutting and prepping one very short piece of copper pipe.Steve Minnich0
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Keep in mind putting a valve between two closely spaced tees is like moving the branches 2 feet apart.
A standard ball valve is about 4' of EL, full port maybe 1/2 that. You are adding a bit of pressure drop between closely spaced tees when you put in a valve.
It may, or will induce some flow to the branches. Maybe not enough to cause problems, so make sure the valve is worth the pressure drop.Bob "hot rod" Rohr
trainer for Caleffi NA
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My follow up question is would it matter what side the heating loop or the boiler loop is on. Could I go either way, it doesn’t look no worse then what webstone has for navien with the flex in middle of the valves. https://www.supplyhouse.com/Webstone-5FK4-WIF-1-1-4-Sweat-Complete-Near-Boiler-Manifold-Piping-Kit-for-Wall-Hung-Boilers?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIheGbjeC53gIVg5-fCh3zSQ43EAQYASABEgLd5vD_BwE
I kinda like the first product I put up there.0 -
Do you want the boiler in the primary or secondary loop?
I always considered anything that went in and out of the branches to be a secondary load, straight thru the primary flow. The boiler could be in either loop depending on you piping logic.Bob "hot rod" Rohr
trainer for Caleffi NA
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Those injun-eeeearrrrs I work with always call it an injection loop. They dont recognize the phrase primary/secondary.
I always associate injection as variable speed, but I guess.....Serving Northern Maine HVAC & Controls. I burn wood, it smells good!0 -
I suppose injection would be a fair way to describe it, as long as the closely spaced tees are involved. You only have a P/S piping if two tees are spaced and piped properly. That is the biggest mistake I see, lack of the tees on the same pipe.
These schematics could be considered injection loops with fixed speed circs used.Bob "hot rod" Rohr
trainer for Caleffi NA
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I've always had trouble deciding what to call it when the boiler and loads are both "secondary" loops off the primary. I like the term Injection Loop, that would eliminate a lot of confusion. Thanks0
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