Radiant floor kitchen

Snowmelt

my Own kitchen needs a new floor, I am going to obviously install radiant in the floor and get rid of the baseboard. I’m also taking the subfloor up. The question is should I use track /climate panels, or should I just go with mud and put the tile right over the Pex tubing. Here the info I can give you:
Small kitchen 110 square feet
Existing baseboard is 6 linnier feet ( I’m thinking tops 600 btu per foot so that’s 3,600 btu )
Out of the 110 square feet 14square would be under the the refrigerator & stove
One outside wall Wich is 12 x 8 with a door and window.
Would I have more btu if i use the climate panels then the poor method. .

STEVEusaPA

I assume you are gutting the entire kitchen? Otherwise you are going to have issues with the dishwasher, and possible the refrigerator if there is a cabinet above it. You would also have to now consider the shorter distance between the range and any wall cabinets/range hood.
If there are no height issues, subfloor, wet bed, tile would be the best way to go. However, how about your control strategy? Now you have a small zone that requires a lower temperature.
If you are gutting, how about radiant ceiling?

Snowmelt

I’m just doing the floor, I’m just taking the sub floor off , it looks like 2 subfloors then a thin material then lanoliam. Plus it’s warped we’re the frig is, I’m going to leave the bottom original sub floor, then install the climate panel with tubing, then 1/4 cement board, then tile, the dishwasher is the only appliance with a counter over it, but if I don’t install radiant order there I don’t think that will effect the room, I really didn’t include that in my sq ft of room.
I’m not gutting whole room,
As far as piping I was gust going to get a small maybe 30 gallon indirect water heater and run it off the boiler. Or a 30 gallon tank water heater. I installed radiant in my bath, real small like 50 sq ft I attached to my reg water heater using the radiant floor.com diagram.

GroundUp

The gyp route tends to get pretty thick when done right. An area like that I'd do something like quik-trak or climate panel, maybe even warmboard. Although I hate the idea of using water heaters for space heating, small areas like that work out pretty well with a cute little 6 gallon electric unit, A 1500-2000W single element puts out 5-6,000 BTU. I've done a few bathrooms that way in homes that otherwise have no boiler, and have had very good luck.

Rich_49

GroundUp said:

The gyp route tends to get pretty thick when done right. An area like that I'd do something like quik-trak or climate panel, maybe even warmboard. Although I hate the idea of using water heaters for space heating, small areas like that work out pretty well with a cute little 6 gallon electric unit, A 1500-2000W single element puts out 5-6,000 BTU. I've done a few bathrooms that way in homes that otherwise have no boiler, and have had very good luck.

Yeah , using the mass in a water heater that does not short cycle makes way less sense than a boiler with an H Stamp in a low load house that requires temps under 140* and will probably need A buffer tank . You my friend may very well be one of those that see this industries race to the bottom finish faster . Because using more industrial grade temps and fuel makes so much sense

GroundUp

Rich said:

GroundUp said:

The gyp route tends to get pretty thick when done right. An area like that I'd do something like quik-trak or climate panel, maybe even warmboard. Although I hate the idea of using water heaters for space heating, small areas like that work out pretty well with a cute little 6 gallon electric unit, A 1500-2000W single element puts out 5-6,000 BTU. I've done a few bathrooms that way in homes that otherwise have no boiler, and have had very good luck.

Yeah , using the mass in a water heater that does not short cycle makes way less sense than a boiler with an H Stamp in a low load house that requires temps under 140* and will probably need A buffer tank . You my friend may very well be one of those that see this industries race to the bottom finish faster . Because using more industrial grade temps and fuel makes so much sense

Huh?

Snowmelt

Radiant floor in my kitchen.