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Worst Boiler Service Call Ever. Let me know yours.

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RayWohlfarth
RayWohlfarth Member Posts: 1,481
Someone asked me what was my worst boiler service call and mine was when we serviced the boiler in a pet food rendering plant. This place had this slime all over everything. It was like doing service on ice. I slipped and fell a couple times landing in the crud. It covered every control. When I got home, I had to change out of my clothes and just threw them away. We tried cleaning the clothes and the smell transferred to all the other clothes. I just added extra to the invoice for the cost of the clothes. The worst part was that all the dogs in the neighborhood would know when I got home. So glad when they closed.
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  • lchmb
    lchmb Member Posts: 2,997
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    had an older gentleman who's wife was in a elderly home. He should have been as well but refused since he couldnt take his cats... The state was supposed to help him maintain his home but they did nothing. Needless to say their was cat littler 5" deep front to back in the home. The only food we found in the home was cat litter (opening the fridge was a sight I will never forget). He had a miller furnace and was so desperate for someone to talk with he would shut it down and call in no heat.. We finally got through to the state how bad it was and they forced him out... I think they burned the trailer down...
  • SuperTech
    SuperTech Member Posts: 2,164
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    I don't know if I can pick just one as the absolute worst. But I'll try....

    I went to a house that a hoarder lives in. Multiple cats, dogs, rabbits and mice running all over the place, the smell was atrocious. Fecal matter, urine and dead animals and garbage are some of what caused the stench. They had a gas boiler with a standing pilot. I found it after clearing out a bunch of piled up junk and garbage that was covering it. Rollout switch was jumped out, and the boiler was packed with soot due to lack of combustion air.
    I wanted to condemn it at that point, but I'm the kind of technician that if I think I can fix it and do the right thing for the customer I will. After I cleaned the boiler I was covered in soot and even though I wore a dust mask my nose was full of it. And that actually made me smell better than the stench of the house. I found a dead dried up cat carcass under the junk behind the boiler. The lady that lives there was nice enough, but I reported her to the ASPCA and adult protective services. Luckily I never went back.

    Great idea for a thread Ray. I was thinking about starting one just like it.
    tankman
  • RayWohlfarth
    RayWohlfarth Member Posts: 1,481
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    @lchmb OMG The ammonia smell must have been horrible
    @SuperTech Yech!!! You got me there. I could not have made it through that
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  • flat_twin
    flat_twin Member Posts: 350
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    As a telco tech I've seen the same type of homes as described above. I had a trainee with me one week and we had to do a repair at one such home. When we finished and were leaving the job he said "You know, that's the first time I felt the need to wipe my feet before I went outside".

    One I'll never forget was a bells don't ring report (back when the company owned the phones). I took the phone off the wall, popped the cover off on the kitchen table and the cockroaches inside the phone scattered . The lady didn't bat an eye. The place had been sprayed for bugs and they found a hide out in the wall phone clustered so tight around the clapper the phone wouldn't ring. Normally phones were sent back for refurbishing but that one went in a plastic bag and straight to the dumpster.
  • SuperTech
    SuperTech Member Posts: 2,164
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    It was the first time I felt the need to wear shoe covers to protect my shoes from what's inside the house! The stench is something I will forget.
  • SlamDunk
    SlamDunk Member Posts: 1,580
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    I used to work in pet food plants all over the world. Once, I did a job in Mexico at a plant that manufactured Pedigree dog food.

    When I landed in Dallas and stepped off the aircraft, I walked passed a drug sniffing K-9 on the jet way. In seconds, I was on the wall, being frisked, with shoes removed, back pack searched, top layer of clothing off, cops barking orders at me at me; fellow passengers staring as they walked by. All because the dog's nose followed me. I was visibly shaking!

    The cop's were confused and brought the dog to me. He sat obediently, panted, wagged his tail, smiled the way dogs do then started drooling on my bag. The K-9 cop said "i never seen him do this before". It dawned on me. I told him his dog is hungry and explained where I was. They let me go and I went straight to the bathroom!
    SuperTechSolid_Fuel_Man
  • GBart
    GBart Member Posts: 746
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    People bred Siamese cats, had the cages stacked up over the hatch that went into the basement, the combination of urine and feces combined to make this slurry that ran down the walls ans side of the stairs, it was the most horrendous smell ever, I didn't even make it down the stairs and ended up on all fours on the lawn, called the office and said no way, boss said he'd be right over, handed me and dust mask and some Vicks, stayed with me and we did it together.

    That's what they are passing around in Silence of the Lambs before they open the body bag.
    SuperTech
  • RayWohlfarth
    RayWohlfarth Member Posts: 1,481
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    @flat_twin I hate roaches Yech!
    @SlamDunk I feel your pain. LOL
    @GBart OMG Thats terrible
    Thanks Guys I will never complain about my jobs after hearing these.
    Ray Wohlfarth
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  • NY_Rob
    NY_Rob Member Posts: 1,370
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    My buddy had to replace a Motorola two-way radio in a NYC Taxi cab...
    He said the roaches were literally crawling on him as he lay on the floor to access the radio mounts under the dash.
    He stopped on the way home and bought a bug-bomb for his truck. When he got home he stripped down and took an outdoor shower at his pool shower, disposed of his cloths in double garbage bags, took another shower once inside and changed into clean cloths. He said he still felt dirty after that.

    He now gives the radios to the Taxi owner and has their mechanic install the radios.
  • GBart
    GBart Member Posts: 746
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    Then there was the time the lady had animals and chickens in the house and the beeper was going off like crazy meaning the answering service had an emergency so I had to use the phone, I tried but the phone had some sort of vomited excrement all over the mouth piece.

    Be happy you cell phones kiddies.
    SuperTech
  • RayWohlfarth
    RayWohlfarth Member Posts: 1,481
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    @NY_Rob Yech!!!! I dont blame him for doing that.
    @GBart I would not have been able to work there. I worked on one house where the owner was a horder. The bathtub was filled with garbage. I could not imagine how they bathed.
    Ray Wohlfarth
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    GBart
  • lchmb
    lchmb Member Posts: 2,997
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    learned long ago in a different career in life that breathing is not necessary in certain conditions.. once did a tune up on a million dollar house. Had a second tech with me, since we knew she had cats... 40 plus.. all kept in the basement.. there was a blanket of care hair through the entire basement...2" thick... tuneup took 20 minutes... no honestly it was not thorough..I admit this..
  • EBEBRATT-Ed
    EBEBRATT-Ed Member Posts: 15,525
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    One of the worst was a old Smith 44 with an Iron Fireman burner about 20 gph in a school burning #2 oil. This job was out in the boonies in Connecticut.

    The custodian called me at 6 am, no heat, no flame, burner running and oil all over the boiler room floor. We were 1 1/2 hrs away. He told me he was going to get a local guy who does residential, I said don't do it.

    The burner was door mounted with the old combustion chamber filled with sand and rubble so all the oil had drained down through all that sand and still came out on the floor.

    We found the ignition transformer had failed (direct spark ignition) and the burner programmer had failed not shutting the burner off on safety.

    School was in session even with no heat so after we fixed the burner the next call was to the fire dept.

    The fire chief and I agreed that we would start this after school got out and at 2:00pm they closed school early and I started the burner. As soon as it lit I shut it back down. The fire chief was standing by with a hose off the truck and things got scary for a few minuets , lots of huffing, puffing and smoke. It burned for 4 hours and made steam without running the burner.
    ratioSuperTechSolid_Fuel_Man
  • Steamhead
    Steamhead Member Posts: 16,835
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    One of the worst was a old Smith 44 with an Iron Fireman burner about 20 gph in a school burning #2 oil. This job was out in the boonies in Connecticut.

    The custodian called me at 6 am, no heat, no flame, burner running and oil all over the boiler room floor. We were 1 1/2 hrs away. He told me he was going to get a local guy who does residential, I said don't do it.

    The burner was door mounted with the old combustion chamber filled with sand and rubble so all the oil had drained down through all that sand and still came out on the floor.

    We found the ignition transformer had failed (direct spark ignition) and the burner programmer had failed not shutting the burner off on safety.

    School was in session even with no heat so after we fixed the burner the next call was to the fire dept.

    The fire chief and I agreed that we would start this after school got out and at 2:00pm they closed school early and I started the burner. As soon as it lit I shut it back down. The fire chief was standing by with a hose off the truck and things got scary for a few minuets , lots of huffing, puffing and smoke. It burned for 4 hours and made steam without running the burner.

    That's called "taming the dragon" >:)
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  • RayWohlfarth
    RayWohlfarth Member Posts: 1,481
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    @lchmb I would be sneezing and my eyes would puff out. Can be around cats.
    @EBEBRATT-Ed Wow was it a rebuilt flame safeguard? That could have been so much worse. The patron saint of boilers was watching you that day.
    @Steamhead Its also called flexing your sphincter muscle
    Ray Wohlfarth
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  • Mark Eatherton
    Mark Eatherton Member Posts: 5,853
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    My absolute worst service call happened in the mountains of Colorado. A Buderus 3 pass boiler with a Riello LP burner mounted.

    When I showed up, I heard the boiler light with a BANG. Homeowner lady met me at front door and said "Did you hear it???" with a panicked look on her face. I acknowledge that I had. She said 4 other companies had worked on it and had given up. I was the 5th to show up.... I explained that the best idea was to tear burner down, clean it up, readjust everything to factory specs and restart it. She OK'd my work.

    I tore into it, got it cleaned up, and put back together, had instrumentation ALL over the gas train and burner and boiler, and hit the power switch. I was on my hands and knees in front of the boiler so I could read all of the pressure gauges I had to see. Saw the gas valve open, and started counting automatically. When I got to 5 seconds and it hadn't ignited, I started reaching for the cut off switch when there was a VERY loud BANG. I remember seeing a blue bolt of lightning where the flue breaching was supposed to be. When I woke up, the room was full of dust, and smoke, I was laying on my side wondering what the hell had just hit me, with my ears ringing badly, and this hissing sound in my ears.

    The lady came running down stairs yelling to see if I was OK. I told her I was and asked her to leave the house immediately. As I'm shaking my head, trying to clear it to figure out what the heck had just happened, the hissing sound I'd heard was still there, and I suddenly realized that my manometer on the main fuel supply had been blown completely out of its port. I had raw LP being dumped into her basement. If I had been knocked completely out for a long period ot time, there most probably would have been a secondary LP explosion that would have been even worse that the first one... I shut off the fuel valve, and the power and got up and walked out of the room, looking for fire in the corners, which I fortunately didn't see.

    When I met the HO outside, I told her that I'd experienced a cataclysmic fire side explosion, and needed to regain fully before going back in to assess damages. 10 minutes later, I walked back in, and realized what had happened. It had turned the flue breaching completely inside out for 2-1/2 stories. Including the B vent. I told her that I couldn't repair the boiler (cracked the burner door and blew the ignition module completely off its mountings) and that I was going to have to replace her boiler at my cost... She and her hubby were headed out of town for 10 days to go see their kids back east for Thanksgiving. I scrambled, and got the proper size of modcon boiler put in place, properly piped (her original was wrong on many ways) using a friend who happened to be available, and had the whole thing done ASAP, in like 2 days. I didn't end up making any money on the job, because I felt bad that the boiler had exploded on my watch. Her insurance company paid me for the repairs, but I still didn't feel right taking advantage of a bad situation. I lost money, but gained a customer for life, and got away with my life. I felt very fortunate. The boiler now resides at my home in the mountains, and is being converted to a pellet/saw dust burning boilers.

    Work safely out there...

    ME
    It's not so much a case of "You got what you paid for", as it is a matter of "You DIDN'T get what you DIDN'T pay for, and you're NOT going to get what you thought you were in the way of comfort". Borrowed from Heatboy.
    Solid_Fuel_ManSuperTechCanuckerCLamb
  • JUGHNE
    JUGHNE Member Posts: 11,061
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    This wasn't really a service call but more of a site survey of a grand old house of the 1920's. It is 30 miles from me, but I had another PM job near it so I wanted to look.

    There were many clues given as to not do anything but take the tour:
    1: A guy shows up at my front door wanting me to look at his system, he says "but if you call do it before the last day of the month as they shut my phone off until I get paid on the 10th"

    2: Even though NG is 50' away he does not want to connect, rather use LP......(there is only one NG company and they keep good records and will not connect anyone owning money...but there are maybe 3 different LP companies who might give you bad credit advances) This is a familiar story around here.

    3: The curtains blowing out of the broken 2nd floor windows.

    4: There was a 2 pipe steam system/boiler/oil gun that had not run for years. Frozen? He sold the old oil tank and old oil for cash. (actually I believe they were squatters)
    5: The brick chimney was falling apart.

    I just shot a price of at least 10 grand with half up front to end the conversation.

    He calls later asking about an upgrade for the 60 amp electric service to 200amp for running space heaters, I said there is a local electrician in your town. "Yes, he said, he lives across the street and will not even look at it or talk to me."

    Eventually a corn stove was installed as the wall vent was obvious. Within 2 years they move on to another squat spot.

    I talk a lot with the local phone guy. He had been there a month before me when they moved in. They wanted the complete phone package including internet and HDTV. And wanted no wires run on the outside of the house. Owner said he had a full basement.... it was "full" of 6" of raw sewage.
    Phone guy refused to go down. They called his boss, he still refused to do it. Owner agreed to run cables in the basement.
    It got done.
    Every time the family moved they would put the phone in a different daughter's name as they were in arrears constantly.

    The basement was dry for my visit but had a little more than usual pungent smell for an old abandoned house.
    And I forgot to mention the dogs tied up at each door.
  • RayWohlfarth
    RayWohlfarth Member Posts: 1,481
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    @Mark Eatherton Wow You are so lucky to have survived. Wondering if I would have changed careers after that call.

    @JUGHNE It sometimes amazes me how much effort it takes to do the wrong thing and wonders if it would be easier to do the right thing. I know in some locales, the squatters have as much rights as the owners. Weird.
    Ray Wohlfarth
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  • Solid_Fuel_Man
    Solid_Fuel_Man Member Posts: 2,646
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    I had a no water call. Was told the submersible was bad and the neighbor had a good one we were to install. This whole story made me leery to start. I decided to take an apprentice with me as I usually work alone.

    We get to the jobsite to a rundown trailer with lots of junk all around. Knock on the door and are met with a scorching hot blast of smoke and stale beer smell, it was about 45 outside. We are directed to the well outback and see a 3wire control box, some submersible cable, an orange extension cord, and duct tape.

    I check for power, and procede to go inside and check pressure switch and wiring. I wade through garbage and Coors lite cans and several people watching TV while hand rolling cigarettes. I get to the bedroom where the pressure tank is in the closet. It is dangling by some 1/2 soft copper and romex. The floor is completly rotted away and I can clearly see the ground below the trailer, amongst shredded up fiberglass insulation.

    As I'm taking this all in, I hear someone coming down the hall. I look out the door to see an elderly woman of about 200lbs who walks by and I see a light come on in the adjacent room....the bathroom. There is a large hole which I have a clear view of the toilet. She sits, and we'll you know. I go back outside quickly, as my apprentice has the wires disconnected so we can see if there is power at the wellhead. I give an quick overview of what I saw.

    About that time the neighbor who's house is simply a plywood box with a stovepipe and no windows comes out and trys to start an old rusty pickup about 50' from us. It is straightpiped, and he holds it to the floor...

    I go back inside where it must be 85 degrees, and try and make sense of the lack of power. We determined that an buried orange extension cord with several splices was feeding the pump and we left.

    As neither of us was going to get under that trailer to refeed the pump, with all the junk around the outside i' d have had to go through the floor where the pressure tank was. We never went back.

    I felt so disgusting I'd have stripped down if there had not been an apprentice with me.
    Serving Northern Maine HVAC & Controls. I burn wood, it smells good!
  • NY_Rob
    NY_Rob Member Posts: 1,370
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    @Solid_Fuel_Man ... I think you win, or rather you lose :*

    You painted quite a picture, that place seems like it's right out of one of the "Wrong Turn" or "The Hills Have Eyes" horror movies.

    Let me guess... they had a Wax Museum out back for the tourists? :o
    Solid_Fuel_ManCanucker
  • RayWohlfarth
    RayWohlfarth Member Posts: 1,481
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    @Solid_Fuel_Man I have scrunched my face tighter than i ever have with that mental image
    Ny Rob I agree
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  • EBEBRATT-Ed
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    @Mark Eatherton ,

    That's a bad one, glad you are ok. The only "good" thing to come out of these mishaps is you never forget.

    @RayWohlfarth ,

    The old Iron Fireman C240s were great burners. Way, way ahead of their time. 300psi oil pressure, forced draft, 12,000 volt France ignition transformer. They would build a fire as good as anything made today and they started making these in the late 50s.

    The programmer was a Fireye 6058, can timer, vacuum tubes and all. They were very common and quite popular when I started in 73. A 1960s control

    They were pretty mechanical and anything mechanical can fail.

    This happened back around 1990
  • Dennis
    Dennis Member Posts: 101
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    Had a boiler call in a pet enthists home, they kept about 12 dogs in the basement all used he basement as a toilet and the boiler as a fire plug. Needless to say I left and would not come back until the picked up the 50 pounds of dog crap. The boiler was junk completely eaten away by dog pee, and stuffed with hair balls. The solution and the only offer I made was to install a combi boiler in there kitchen pantry vented out the back wall and piped to the existing location with 1 inch pex for the heating and 3/4 for the water with CSST for the gas line. We left the old boiler and water tank in the basement for further use of the dogs.

    Recounting this story makes me gag.
    Just do it, right.
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  • GroundUp
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    Installing a Tarm wood boiler in a garage at an old farmstead. Place is kind of a dump, but the homeowner is super nice and offering to help, etc. After a few hours she wanders by with a pan of chocolate cake/brownies/bars of some sort, and being a hungover 19 year old kid I obliged and ate a stack of them. Now there are cats wandering around everywhere, but it's a farm so whatever- there will be cats. Finished up in the garage and wandered in the house to get started in the basement. Well here's the remainder of that pan of brownies sitting on the counter where there are no less than 10 cats sitting, sunning themselves. Gross, but whatever I've eaten worse things. Headed for the basement to find a solid layer of poo on the floor and a very foul smell but luckily I just had to connect an A/W exchanger and be on my way. I'm a farm kid so poopy boots are no biggie. Well anyway I'm messing around down there and see a big ~50lb sack in the corner, sitting on this wet, crap infested floor. Curiosity got me so I went to check what it was and the sack has a wide open top, it's flour and apparently doubles as a litter box because there are sever turds sitting on top. Took about 45 seconds to realize that brownies have flour in them and my previous meal had likely been sourced from this sack. Instant vomit, all over the floor, but lucky for me it was just chocolate and blended right in with the rest of the yuck. I left the puke where it lied and got the heck out of there ASAP. Hopefully the cats had a nice dessert after I left.

    Also, service irrelevant but I looked at a local house for sale last fall thinking it'd be a good place to flip; 10 acres out in the sticks, house built in the mid 80's, looked promising. Place had been empty for several years, but I remember the kids who lived there back in the day rode my school bus and were typical of the "trashy" variety; missing teeth and never bathed, same clothes every day, etc. Place always looked decent from the road so I assumed this was just a personal choice. Turns out I was a cover judging jerk back then, because from the moment I stepped inside, I felt bad for thinking that about those poor kids. There was only about 8 sheets of drywall in the entire house, 1 small cabinet in the kitchen, urine soaked mattresses just tossed about the house, 1 toilet and a farm style stock tank which I assume to have been a bathtub but only had a hose nearby from the pressure tank. No water heater anywhere, no hookup for a washing machine or dryer, just a total dumpster fire of a house. I felt dirty for 3 days after leaving that house
    SuperTech
  • rick in Alaska
    rick in Alaska Member Posts: 1,457
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    "learned long ago in a different career in life that breathing is not necessary in certain conditions."
    "Took about 45 seconds to realize that brownies have flour in them and my previous meal had likely been sourced from this sack. Instant vomit, all over the floor, but lucky for me it was just chocolate and blended right in with the rest of the yuck. "
    Those two lines almost made me spit coffee! Especially the one about breathing being "optional".
    My worst one was probably when I first started working here we used to clean the grease traps at the local Safeway. There are two of them in the store, with one inside the deli area and the other in the meat cutting room. Both of these are installed in the floor, and the one in the meat cutting room is fed from a three compartment sink that appears to have hot water running in it all day long. Let me tell you when you open the lid on that one that it will make your eyes water and make you re-think your career choice. In order to clean it, you have to kneel on the floor and hang your head over to scrape the nasty stuff out, and this is with basically steam infused scum rolling right past your head.
    We finished the job and I went straight home and took a long hot shower and through my clothes away. I still can't believe they would let us clean those with the store still open. It sure made the deli smell pretty nasty.
    I also told my mother-in-law ,who owned the business, I was never going to do that again, and we didn't.
    Around here there are definitely some very nasty places to work in, but I just usually just focus on what needs to be done and get out as quickly as possible.
    Rick
  • rick in Alaska
    rick in Alaska Member Posts: 1,457
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    Dang! just re-read the original post and realized it was worst boiler job, not just worst job.
    In that case, anything that involves having to brush out a Weil Mclain or similar top cleaning boiler that is in a short four foot crawlspace and the person who piped it put all the pipes on top.
    We don't have cockroaches or hardly any other nasty bugs here, so that is something I don't have to worry about. We do have lots of daddy long leg spiders that like moist environments, and have a tendency to group together in massive amounts to stay warm. I have seem as many as 100 all piled together in one mass. And when you are stuck working under a mobile home with low clearance and you look up and see about 20 moving just above your face, well you just keeps you mouth shut, do the job, and get out. They can't hurt you, but man when you get that many together, they do stink.
    Rick
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  • RayWohlfarth
    RayWohlfarth Member Posts: 1,481
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    @EBEBRATT-Ed I loved the Iron Fireman burners.
    @Dennis *holding nose* that is why we dont do residential
    @GroundUp Perhaps that is what gave the brownies that special flavor. Poor kids having to live like that.
    @rick in Alaska liked both stories thanks for making me feel better about my calls
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  • EBEBRATT-Ed
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    @RayWohlfarth , they were good burners but only had one downfall. If you lost a blower motor or a fan you had to pull the oil pump and then work in the oily mess you just made to pull the blower wheel off and on. Hated that. And the two larger burners the F & K models had a habit of throwing blower wheels. Have a Christmas Eve story about one of those.
  • the_donut
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    I used to work in a meat department at a chain grocery store. I was new to closing the department. They had a policy of saving expired meat and placing it in a 55 gallon barrel.

    Policy was, at the end of the night, expired food would be taken to the back and thrown in a compactor. I didn’t realize that the meat barrel was special. It took two of us to raise the 200+ lbs of stinking meat 4’ into the compactor and not drop the barrel.

    Later that week I was questioned why the meat barrel was so low. Apparently the expired meat was to be picked up to render the fat for soap and other products. The company was being paid by the pound. Just remember that when you pick up a bar of soap.
  • RayWohlfarth
    RayWohlfarth Member Posts: 1,481
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    @EBEBRATT-Ed We installed a couple of Iron Fireman EED burners and they ran great
    @the_donut Thanks for that mental image
    Ray Wohlfarth
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  • GBart
    GBart Member Posts: 746
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    "other products" usually means hot dogs, sausages, and pet food
  • NY_Rob
    NY_Rob Member Posts: 1,370
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    And don't ask what gelatin/Jell-O is made of......
    https://www.peta.org/about-peta/faq/what-is-gelatin-made-of/
  • JUGHNE
    JUGHNE Member Posts: 11,061
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    "All Natural" casing for hot dogs and sausage is an interesting item also.
  • RayWohlfarth
    RayWohlfarth Member Posts: 1,481
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    @GBart, @NY_Rob, @JUGHNE Thanks for making me less hungry today LOL
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  • EBEBRATT-Ed
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    @RayWohlfarth
    I only installed 1 EED in a scotch boiler. Never had any problem with it, but we never serviced it after it was out of warrenty. We had tons of the Whirlpower C120s and C240s installed in old schools fired through the doors on old low set boilers that had burned coal.

    We did a lot of the "AO" air atomizers. Some good, some not so good and a few "PAO" pressure atomizers.

    Most of this was in the 70s and a few in the 80s. Then the place I worked switched to PowerFlame. The EED was done at about the time we made the switch
  • RayWohlfarth
    RayWohlfarth Member Posts: 1,481
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    @EBEBRATT-Ed Not much oil here. The EED was installed in a hospital and was dual fuel
    Ray Wohlfarth
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  • flat_twin
    flat_twin Member Posts: 350
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    While in a crawl space under a modular home, I heard what sounded like a vacuum cleaner running on the floor above my head. I kept on crawling to the place where I had drilled thru the floor and pushed a stiff piece of ground wire with telco wiring tied to it. The ground wire was just stiff enough to poke a hole in the plastic insulation barrier that is under every modular and mobile home. I finished running the wire under the house and went inside. No one was running a vacuum cleaner. Hmmm, Back outside to work in the telco box and I immediately notice insect traffic to and from a small gap in the vinyl siding. It was little hornets and they apparently had a nest built in the space between the floor and the insulation barrier. What I heard was the humming of God knows how many hornets. Glad I didn't drill right thru them or reach up into the insulation to find wiring as I sometimes have to do.

    Solid_Fuel_Man
  • Leonard
    Leonard Member Posts: 903
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    Rental , Chinese restaurant. Nice building initally. They installed 2 new Carrier HVACs (1065 pounds), cut 2 roof rafters for EACH HVAC and didn't want to add structural wood , (each pre-existing rafter just took the 40#/SF snow load, never mind the extra 1065# !!!). Heard they bought off the building inspector, took our engineer and lawyers to force them to fix it and landlord paying 1/2 the repair bill of extra rafters.

    Kept us awake at nights when it snowed worrying about his 125 customers possibly being killed if roof fell in. A few years before roof collapsed at the Hartford Civics Center, only 6 hours after ~ 10,000 people were there watching a hockey game. It collapsed due to under designed structural roof supports:

    15 years later, when Chinease guy left: roof top HVAC was not working. AC pump motor internally shorted , gray mold on inside of ductwork, all saftys on burner bypassed, exhaust squiral fan replaced with 1/2 height one (not enough flow), burn marks on insulation (fire roll out), rusted out condensate pan. 24 V transformer in one HVAC was dead so they stole 24 V power from the other HVAC.

    Black mold/grease/dirt "map" tracks in carpet so servers could find their way back to the kitchen. Walk in cooler with roof sheet metal delaminating and hanging down 2 ft. Moved it over and greasy sinking water poured on me. Grease everywhere in kitchen. Many burnt out and fickering lights, kitchen looked like a black hole. Broken kitchen tiles, for some missing ones they filled with concreat and painted them red to look like a tile.

    Dead greasy cockroaches inside all the steel power conduits. Everything your touched made your hands stink of them. Cracked roof rafters where they cranked lag bolts into the wood rafters. Roof leaked so rotted roof decking. They shut off kitchen cooking hood vents in winter so cooking grease condensed on all walls and ceiling....... ALL the gas lines just sawed off when they sold off the used cooking equipment.

    Kept all their $28K security deposit, AND they sued to get it ALL back. They lost.
    Solid_Fuel_Man
  • Stet
    Stet Member Posts: 38
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    This did not happen to me but a friend who worked for the same oil company. Tom was an oil service tech. His first call of the day was a boiler and water heater annual clean out call. When he arrived, the homeowner led him out to a shed area that was attached to the back of the house. It was big enough for the boiler and tank and had room for the people to store their outdoor stuff. Tom brought in his vacuum and tools and started on the boiler. At this point, the homeowner came in and told Tom that he was taking his wife shopping and Tom could just leave a slip in the door when he was done. He then left, latching the door behind him. In effect, locking tom in the shed. Tom tried calling the office a number of times to explain his predicament, but cell coverage was bad, and each time his call was dropped. At the office, they were wondering why Tom kept calling and hanging up. They finally decided he might be in trouble and sent another serviceman to the house to check on Tom. So 4 hours later, he was freed, much to the humorous delight of his fellow workers.
    SuperTechSolid_Fuel_Man
  • RayWohlfarth
    RayWohlfarth Member Posts: 1,481
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    @flat_twin You were so lucky to not get stung
    @Leonard Yech Squared that is disgusting.
    @Stet That would be embarrassing and scary.
    Ray Wohlfarth
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