My first 4" Header!!

delta T

This is the first 4" header I've ever built.

We cut out the old welded header, equalizer and hartford loop (yes, all of that was welded). The old header was 3" (mfg calls for 4) and was piped wrong, the old hartford loop was centered on the water line and was two pipe sizes too big, and the equalizer had a really funky offset in it, and did I mention ALL OF THIS WAS WELDED TOGETHER!!!!

Anyways, Here is the new one! Have never done a 4" one before, a few 3", but never a 4".

EBEBRATT-Ed

Really nice job!!

GW

That's sweet!

Do you blue monster tape the threads? I'm curious my some guys tape these steam joints

How did you nail that 4" between the risers? You have a way to thread 4"?

Gary

HVACNUT

Very nice!
What's the white control on top of the boiler? I think it says Tripp Lite.

ChrisJ

GW said:

That's sweet!



Do you blue monster tape the threads? I'm curious my some guys tape these steam joints



How did you nail that 4" between the risers? You have a way to thread 4"?



Gary

A lot of guys here use blue monster tape with a dab of Megaloc on top. I did that on most of mine, but threads I thought that came out good I used Megaloc alone. Every connection into the boiler got both tape and dope though.

I could be wrong, but I think those recommendations came originally from Gerry Gill and Steamhead.

SeanBeans

Can a hartford loop be too big?

Steamhead

Nice looking job so far, and I'll bet that Peerless runs a whole lot better when it's done. Only thing I would have changed was to make it a drop header.

Can't wait to see the pic of the finished job.

EzzyT

Looking good so far, just curious how close that flue pipe is to the pvc horizontal sewer line.

delta T

@GW

Blue monster with weld on blue pipe dope. We ordered the nipple pack spec'd in the installation manual, one of my suppliers has a full fab shop and cut all these to the lengths we gave them. But yes I can thread up to 4" using a rigid 141 attached to my 300 threader. The only limitation on the 141 is that the shortest piece you can cut is about 10" long. Really cool piece of machinery though, there are a few videos on youtube if you are curious how it actually works.

https://www.ridgid.com/us/en/receding-geared-threaders

@SeanBeans

well not really, its just that if you use welded fittings, on this particular boiler, the radius is too long to get the hartford loop at the correct height given the size they used (3"). As I said the connection for the hartford loop was literally centered on the water line.

@Steamhead

I wish we could have done a drop header, but as the owner already spent an outrageous sum with the previous company who screwed all this up, she did not want the extra expense. We did offer it as an option though.

@HVACNUT

The white box is a voltage conditioner. The power here is very dirty and they were going through S86's like candy.

@EzzyT

It looks really close in this pic, but it is actually about 4" away from the double wall.

Welder came yesterday and welded a flange on the 4" main, and a 3" threadolet on one of the 3" dry returns that had a rotted thread on it. Got all the wet returns tied in yesterday as well. Today is threading 3 pieces of 4" to tie the main in, install the main vents (Gorton #2's on each of the two mains), clean the feeder, LWCO, and sight glass, get all the controls back on and wired, re-pipe the water supply tidy up the wiring, finish all my piping support, fill and skim the boiler, and fire it up! Yeah......that's all I have to do today....

More pics to come

New England SteamWorks

Looking Good!

gerry gill

That looks great, and it will look even better when your done taking a razor knife to the left over exposed pipe tape and dope. I usually do that during skimming as a way to kill boredom. Looking very sharp. Well done!

Paul S_3

Nice job