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Big Mouth Question for @Sailah

Steamhead
Steamhead Member Posts: 17,314
We're working on a Hoffman system with a Return Trap, which uses 1" thermostatic end-of-main traps, piped like this:



These are piped so as to drain the condensate from the steam mains as well as to vent the air. We'd like to upgrade to the 3/4" Big Mouth Crossover Traps, but were wondering if the extra-large valve seats might wire-draw with such a light running condensate load (after the initial start-up when the mains are hot).

Thanks in advance for your thoughts.
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Towson, MD, USA
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Comments

  • Sailah
    Sailah Member Posts: 826
    I don't think they will wire draw. It's the same seat as their 1" trap just in a 3/4 body. Should be fine.
    Peter Owens
    SteamIQ
  • ChrisJ
    ChrisJ Member Posts: 16,231
    Wouldn't it be easier to just use the 1" trap instead of the big mouth in that case?
    Single pipe quasi-vapor system. Typical operating pressure 0.14 - 0.43 oz. EcoSteam ES-20 Advanced Control for Residential Steam boilers. Rectorseal Steamaster water treatment
  • Sailah
    Sailah Member Posts: 826
    Our 1" trap is a 147A, won't provide the venting as a big mouth crossover but you avoid the hassle of getting to size. Could also rebuild what you have there with a new cage unit for the easiest solution.
    Peter Owens
    SteamIQ
  • Steamhead
    Steamhead Member Posts: 17,314
    Sailah said:

    I don't think they will wire draw. It's the same seat as their 1" trap just in a 3/4 body. Should be fine.

    You mean the MEPCO 3C?
    All Steamed Up, Inc.
    Towson, MD, USA
    Steam, Vapor & Hot-Water Heating Specialists
    Oil & Gas Burner Service
    Consulting
  • Sailah
    Sailah Member Posts: 826
    Yes the big mouth is the 3C seat plug and disc in the 2E body. The crossover traps retain the brass seat while the vents have silicone.
    Peter Owens
    SteamIQ
  • Steamhead
    Steamhead Member Posts: 17,314
    Thanks much!
    All Steamed Up, Inc.
    Towson, MD, USA
    Steam, Vapor & Hot-Water Heating Specialists
    Oil & Gas Burner Service
    Consulting