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Big Mouth Question for @Sailah

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Steamhead
Steamhead Member Posts: 16,835
We're working on a Hoffman system with a Return Trap, which uses 1" thermostatic end-of-main traps, piped like this:



These are piped so as to drain the condensate from the steam mains as well as to vent the air. We'd like to upgrade to the 3/4" Big Mouth Crossover Traps, but were wondering if the extra-large valve seats might wire-draw with such a light running condensate load (after the initial start-up when the mains are hot).

Thanks in advance for your thoughts.
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Towson, MD, USA
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  • Sailah
    Sailah Member Posts: 826
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    I don't think they will wire draw. It's the same seat as their 1" trap just in a 3/4 body. Should be fine.
    Peter Owens
    SteamIQ
  • ChrisJ
    ChrisJ Member Posts: 15,673
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    Wouldn't it be easier to just use the 1" trap instead of the big mouth in that case?
    Single pipe quasi-vapor system. Typical operating pressure 0.14 - 0.43 oz. EcoSteam ES-20 Advanced Control for Residential Steam boilers. Rectorseal Steamaster water treatment
  • Sailah
    Sailah Member Posts: 826
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    Our 1" trap is a 147A, won't provide the venting as a big mouth crossover but you avoid the hassle of getting to size. Could also rebuild what you have there with a new cage unit for the easiest solution.
    Peter Owens
    SteamIQ
  • Steamhead
    Steamhead Member Posts: 16,835
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    Sailah said:

    I don't think they will wire draw. It's the same seat as their 1" trap just in a 3/4 body. Should be fine.

    You mean the MEPCO 3C?
    All Steamed Up, Inc.
    Towson, MD, USA
    Steam, Vapor & Hot-Water Heating Specialists
    Oil & Gas Burner Service
    Consulting
  • Sailah
    Sailah Member Posts: 826
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    Yes the big mouth is the 3C seat plug and disc in the 2E body. The crossover traps retain the brass seat while the vents have silicone.
    Peter Owens
    SteamIQ
  • Steamhead
    Steamhead Member Posts: 16,835
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    Thanks much!
    All Steamed Up, Inc.
    Towson, MD, USA
    Steam, Vapor & Hot-Water Heating Specialists
    Oil & Gas Burner Service
    Consulting