Another prepiped drop header

EzzyT

Repiping a boiler that was just put in about a month or so ago.

Paul S_3

nice job @EzzyT ....its so sad how many hacked steam systems are out there.... customer is lucky to find you....i have an appointment on friday to look at a repiped steam system customer said they ran it and one side of the home doesn't heat....i lost this job to another contractor who was 1/3 of my quote....customer wanted to raise steam main between floor joists to finish basement.....cannot wait to see what they did....

EzzyT

Thanks @Paul S. You ain't kidding see them almost every day. Wow now it's going to cost them at least double to get things right. I get those phone calls to all the time on jobs that I lost to a contractors that completely hacked the system and they want me to fix it with a quick fix I just laugh when they say that

warno

So I'm gathering this is what you do? Lol and it seems you do your "prepiping" at night alot of times.

So when you break down someone else's work do you ever reuse any of their parts?

EzzyT

Correct this what I do. It's the only time I have to spare to do any prepiping.
If there is anything quality, which most of the time there isn't anything quality

Paul S_3

@EzzyT ....how much time do you save on an install prepiping....

EzzyT

A couple of hours,

warno

I don't know anything about steam but i would like to.

So why is it that the drop header is so important? Is this a new trick or an old one? It seems you alot of you guys on here replace "basic" piping with these drop headers.

EzzyT

Pick up yourself some of @Dan Holohan books, drop header helps with creating dry steam by allowing gravity to separate the water droplets out of the wet steam entering the header. Size of the header and risers coming off of the boiler into the header is just as important.
We're trying to slow the steam down and lower feet per second that the steam travels out of the boiler.
It's a old trick, the dead men used it to get the B dimension (28") from the bottom of the first swing joints to the boiler water line in low clearance applications the drop header allowed them to get the header below the steam mains.

warno

I have pumping away which was a pretty good read. I'm more on the hot water side of things and a novice just playing around in my garage at that. Steam scares me abit. Lol

You do good work by the way. Keep it up.

ChrisJ

Nice work as always Ezzyt.

I'm starting to learn that steam isn't the only thing being hacked all the time. Seems like every system out there is.

Sailah

EzzyT said:

Repiping a boiler that was just put in about a month or so ago.

I watch a lot of machining videos and one of my favorites is Keith Fenner. His shop labor rate sign is awesome and made me think of you guys out there doing good work.

It says:

Shop Labor Rate

It's not the cost of the repair
It's the cost of the damage you caused



And my favorite I have hanging in my office

EzzyT

Thanks @warno and @ChrisJ.
There are plenty of hot water systems out there that are hacked and being hacked. I see and work on them all time too.

EzzyT

@Sailah those are great quotes

KC_Jones

EzzyT said:

Repiping a boiler that was just put in about a month or so ago.

So out of curiosity did you quote the job originally? What happened to the original contractor that messed it up?

KC_Jones

Paul S said:

nice job @EzzyT ....its so sad how many hacked steam systems are out there.... customer is lucky to find you....i have an appointment on friday to look at a repiped steam system customer said they ran it and one side of the home doesn't heat....i lost this job to another contractor who was 1/3 of my quote....customer wanted to raise steam main between floor joists to finish basement.....cannot wait to see what they did....

You must show us!

EzzyT

No homeowner posted on here about his disaster, contractor bailed after homeowner asked them to change the boiler since it was way oversized and repipe it properly.

KC_Jones

Ah yes I remember that one.

EzzyT

We're stage firing the boiler too

KC_Jones

Given the boiler size and the load, it seems you must. It's sad they paid money for what they got. It's good you are fixing it for them. I wish we could find out the name of the contractor who did it so we can steer people away from their hackery.

EzzyT

Yeah I know it is a shame. There's always going to be hacked around