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  • Paul S_3
    Paul S_3 Member Posts: 1,281
    If i use a seperate boiler like the lochnivar that Hatterasguy posted earlier in this thread with a 257K output....and use 119 gallon indirect lets say the crown mega stor MS-119 ....it says "maximum transfer rates" 417 GPH @90F rise....continous draw is 384 GPH.....if i use a 2nd MS-79 along with the 119 would that give me the 660 i required....mixed down from 150F
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  • Rich_49
    Rich_49 Member Posts: 2,769

    Maybe this is a fit for your project if you have room .
    http://www.htproducts.com/phoenixplusspecifications.html

    I posted this before , something you might want to check out . I think you'll be surprised by the price and the lack of complexity .
    You didn't get what you didn't pay for and it will never be what you thought it would .
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  • Paul S_3
    Paul S_3 Member Posts: 1,281
    Rich if i use this and mix down does the the first hour rating go up ? Im checking all options possible i have a couple similar jobs coming up
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  • SWEI
    SWEI Member Posts: 7,356
    The PHP399-119 would give you the equivalent of two 199k tankless heaters plus a 316L storage tank with a lot less labor and piping involved.

    ...and yes, the first hour rating would go up. The manufacturers' first hour ratings aren't always based on the same temp rise and sometimes they adjust other assumptions to make things look better. It's simpler to look at gallons of storage and BTUs delivered (firing rate x eff) when making comparisons.
  • Paul S_3
    Paul S_3 Member Posts: 1,281
    edited April 2016
    Thank you guys....@Hatterasguy @SWEI @Rich ....ill keep you guys updated
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  • Rich_49
    Rich_49 Member Posts: 2,769
    http://www.htproducts.com/literature/lp-454.pdf

    Tank temp can be set as high as 160* as per IOM . That gets you further while mixing down . Storing at 160* should get you in the range of , 644 gallons per hour or 10.73 GPM .

    The idea that all these folks are gonna be showering and running dishwashers is fantasy .

    Hatt's idea is not altogether bad at all , running through that coil in the steamer in the winter could hedge you but I don't think it would be necessary .
    You didn't get what you didn't pay for and it will never be what you thought it would .
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    Serving most of New Jersey, Eastern Pa .
    Consultation, Design & Installation anywhere
    Rich McGrath 732-581-3833
  • Paul S_3
    Paul S_3 Member Posts: 1,281
    edited April 2016
    no I have 2685 sq ft EDR....880 handles 2725...I like the HTP PHP399-119 setup I will be going with that
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  • JUGHNE
    JUGHNE Member Posts: 11,279
    Can you do the sidewall venting OK considering clearances etc?
  • Paul S_3
    Paul S_3 Member Posts: 1,281
    edited April 2016
    @JUGHNE yes i have clearances
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