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National Radiator (Art) EDR calcs

SteamedInWharton
Member Posts: 62
I had been doing my EDR calcs on my radiators (~1935 house) and found that nothing was really matching the standard charts (the widths and lengths of the sections didn't seem to match the standard tables). Essentially what I have seems to be smaller than the thin tubes. Finally after looking through old radiator catalogs in The Museum, I realized the American Radiator ARCOs seemed to match the dimensions. Later I learned that Burnham Slenderized radiators should also be a pretty close match to ARCOs.
Finally I took a real close look at a radiator and by picking off a little paint and saw "NATIONAL ART RADIATOR" which I interpret to mean National Radiator's Art line. I haven't seen the Arts in any available online radiator calculator. Most catalogs I've seen are no more recent than the early 1930s.
Here's the numbers I came up with using ARCO tables:
3.5” wide x 1.5” long (40 sections = 60 inches) 3 tube radiator, 19” high = 1.1 sq ft/section
3.5” wide x 1.5” long 3 tube radiator, 22” high = 1.3 sq ft/section
4.75” wide x 1.5” long 4 tube, 19” high = 1.4 sq ft/section
Does any one have Art values and know if they differ at all from ARCOs?
Finally I took a real close look at a radiator and by picking off a little paint and saw "NATIONAL ART RADIATOR" which I interpret to mean National Radiator's Art line. I haven't seen the Arts in any available online radiator calculator. Most catalogs I've seen are no more recent than the early 1930s.
Here's the numbers I came up with using ARCO tables:
3.5” wide x 1.5” long (40 sections = 60 inches) 3 tube radiator, 19” high = 1.1 sq ft/section
3.5” wide x 1.5” long 3 tube radiator, 22” high = 1.3 sq ft/section
4.75” wide x 1.5” long 4 tube, 19” high = 1.4 sq ft/section
Does any one have Art values and know if they differ at all from ARCOs?
Steaming along slowly in Wharton, Morris County, NJ.
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Comments
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If they are cast iron and match the dimensions of the ARCOs, the EDR is going to be the same. Do you have a copy of Dan's Radiator EDR book ? You can buy a copy in the store on this site. A handy reference tool to have on hand.0
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