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opinions needed on Embassy OneX mod con.........Mad Dog

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Mad Dog_2
Mad Dog_2 Member Posts: 6,977
in THE MAIN WALL
Guys....yea? , nea? Mad Dog
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  • kcopp
    kcopp Member Posts: 4,433
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    I have installed and worked on a bunch of these.
    They are ok.
    I do not like the concentric vent.
    Hot water output is good for a combi as the boiler 160k input.
    It is compact.
    I actually just replaced a fan on one today.
    took 4 days to arrive as my supplier no longer stocks parts.
    As w/ all modcons....water quality/treatment is important.
    A damp basement is not a good environment.
    If you do an install to the quality you do things at I am sure it will be fine.
  • Mad Dog_2
    Mad Dog_2 Member Posts: 6,977
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    Thanks Kevin...off hand, how much cheaper (percentage-wise) are they than other better known brands that would justify using one? M.D.
    Consulting by Mad Dog & Matt Jr.
  • kcopp
    kcopp Member Posts: 4,433
    edited June 2015
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    Funny. From the supply house that was carrying the Onex combi there was no huge price break......
    Less than a TT excellence
    More than a Navien.
    More than a TT challenger.

    A number of other boiler companies have rebadged it....It is a Cosmogas unit.
    Embassy, Slant/fin, Peerless, Smith Boiler all have put their moniker on the same unit.
    When I first started installing them they claimed 93-4% afue.... now they are down to 91%
  • Mad Dog_2
    Mad Dog_2 Member Posts: 6,977
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    Wow...I knew I'd get the skinny here...cosmogas...yeah saw ALOT of comments on that name on blogs. Thanks Kevin. M.D.
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  • Robert O'Brien
    Robert O'Brien Member Posts: 3,541
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    Way too many asses for the number of seats at the mod/con table!
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  • Mad Dog_2
    Mad Dog_2 Member Posts: 6,977
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    Ha ha....great analogy....I with ya just trying to convince a good buddy to look at the better brands. Mad Dog
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    Robert O'Brien
  • kcopp
    kcopp Member Posts: 4,433
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    I mean these are not terrible boilers by any stretch.
    For a combi unit they do put out a very good hot water supply.
    The BIG thing I do fault them w/ is the venting.
    The concentric vent I do not like. The inside is 2" poly pro (nice) outside sheet metal (not so much).
    They do have a propensity to cross contaminate and the vent seals leak dripping down on the inside of the unit causing all kinds of issues. After a few years the outside intake vent needs replacing. Furthermore the termination does not hold up well to UV exposure.
    Split the venting...problem solved.
    I have had great luck w/ some of the units...others not so much.
    The other thing is that getting the combustion set right can be a bit finicky.
  • wholesalerbill
    wholesalerbill Member Posts: 20
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    Try a Baxi Combi unit. I've had great success selling these units. Few issues and parts are readily at hand from the rep. They also give training classes.
  • wholesalerbill
    wholesalerbill Member Posts: 20
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    Try a Baxi Combi unit. I've had great success selling these units. Few issues and parts are readily at hand from the rep. They also give training classes.

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