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cad cell damaged

Charlie from wmass
Charlie from wmass Member Posts: 4,200
New one for me. The cad cell was burnt crispy on one side, the side towards the electrode. Carlin 301 burner on a Weil 480. What could have caused the spark to jump? The gap is correct and the burner works fine with simply replacing the cad cell. 2 hour drive to the burner is no fun without getting paid for it. Burner was installed in November brand new with the boiler. Thanks for the help guys.
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  • rick in Alaska
    rick in Alaska Member Posts: 1,269
    Usually when I see a melted cad cell it is because of a back draft through the burner. Generally caused by something like an exhaust fan running in the room . The fact that it was only burnt on one side is a little weird for that scenario though. Did it look as if it was an electrical arc caused, or from excessive heat?
    Other than back drafting, I can not think of any other reason for a burnt cad cell.
    Rick
    Bob Bona_4
  • Marz
    Marz Member Posts: 90
    The 480 is a positive draft boiler. I would check the damper adjustment in the back of the boiler and maybe try to get a +.02 overfire.
  • Charlie from wmass
    Charlie from wmass Member Posts: 4,200
    One side only.
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  • Charlie from wmass
    Charlie from wmass Member Posts: 4,200
    page 32 of manual calls for .01 positive pressure at damper.
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  • billtwocase
    billtwocase Member Posts: 2,385
    Charlie, how did the buss bars look? Arcing maybe? Does this have a pre and post purge set? Any sign of negative pressure in the boiler room? That is strange
  • Charlie from wmass
    Charlie from wmass Member Posts: 4,200
    huge basement old house bus bars are straight. It has been a weird job all winter long. Bad tiger loop, burner control died in February, and oil tanks leaked in March. The tanks were made in 1996.
    Cost is what you spend , value is what you get.

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  • Charlie from wmass
    Charlie from wmass Member Posts: 4,200
    pre and post purge. It is a brand new burner and boiler. Huge chimney. It looks like there was an arc as it is burnt on the side towards the buss bar and it not burnt at the end facing the flame. I will see if it is in my scrap bucket and grab a photo.
    Cost is what you spend , value is what you get.

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  • billtwocase
    billtwocase Member Posts: 2,385
    I would like to see a pic of it. I just love jobs like those that Murphy's Law has control over it. Just finished one like that. Possible grounding issue with the electronic ignitor? Hope all is well with you after this winter. You had a tough one out there
  • EBEBRATT-Ed
    EBEBRATT-Ed Member Posts: 11,051
    That sucks. Draft issues is my first thought but being burnt on one side doesn't make sense. Cracked electrode making the spark jump through the cad cell?

    We use to check for cracked electrodes by putting a pc of glass between the electrodes as an insulator and seeing if the spark jumps somewhere where it shouldn't.

    Last Monday was a bad Karma day for me. Went to disconnect a ac unit outside on a slab. My battery sawzall charger died so I couldn't charge a battery, I pulled out my Milwaukee cord sawzall that was rebuilt two months ago and that died, then I pulled out my porta band and on the first cut the blade got pinched and broke!!!

    Then the crane operator stopped by to look at the job as the pick was the following morning at 6 am. We talked a few minits when he got back in his truck it wouldn't start!!
    Charlie from wmassBob Bona_4
  • Harvey Ramer
    Harvey Ramer Member Posts: 2,217
    Some days it's not worth getting out of bed.
  • EBEBRATT-Ed
    EBEBRATT-Ed Member Posts: 11,051

    Harvey Ramer Posts: 971Member ✭✭✭

    11:09AM



    Some days it's not worth getting out of bed.

    Ain't it the truth!
  • burnerman_2
    burnerman_2 Member Posts: 297
    Seems like every year there is that one job.... nothing goes right...
  • Charlie from wmass
    Charlie from wmass Member Posts: 4,200
    This is the one that I have for sure.
    Cost is what you spend , value is what you get.

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