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Mega press

Snowmelt
Snowmelt Member Posts: 1,422
in THE MAIN WALL
No oil, no mess, easy & quicker repair.
What do you guys think.
I want to give a big thanks to Dave sudden, our nj viega rep.

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  • Robert O'Connor_12
    Robert O'Connor_12 Member Posts: 728
    Are those slip couplings?
  • EBEBRATT-Ed
    EBEBRATT-Ed Member Posts: 16,064
    I am not sure if MEGA Press has slip couplings. Is that stuff steam rated?? I don't think it is. I think condensate only.
  • GW
    GW Member Posts: 4,795
    Yes they have slip coup. We are srocked up to 1-1/4" for most average gas jobs.

    It takes some getting used to, if you're not paying attention you can actually waste time.

    But for cutting into an existing main it can not be beat.
    Gary Wilson
    Wilson Services, Inc
    Northampton, MA
    gary@wilsonph.com
  • EBEBRATT-Ed
    EBEBRATT-Ed Member Posts: 16,064
    Gary,
    You probably already know this but Mega Press on gas can be used on any pressure up to and including (but not exceeding 5 psi). I have an E-mail from Wayne Thomas on this.

    Do you know if it's steam rated??
  • GW
    GW Member Posts: 4,795
    I don't know, but I'm not sure who would want to use this on steam. Just my opinion
    Gary Wilson
    Wilson Services, Inc
    Northampton, MA
    gary@wilsonph.com
  • Snowmelt
    Snowmelt Member Posts: 1,422
    Before the steel came out I used copper for gas. They claim it can be used on steám.
  • EBEBRATT-Ed
    EBEBRATT-Ed Member Posts: 16,064
    http://www.viega.us/cps/rde/xbcr/en-us/Combined_TD-MegaPress_Approved_Applications_1013_(EN_ES_FR).pdf

    Yes it apparently is approved for steam to 15 psi. here is the documentation of what it can be used on.

    I have been told that 2 1/2"-4" Mega Press is on the way
  • jonny88
    jonny88 Member Posts: 1,139
    Used it for a viega display room and have to admit I didnt like it.I used it on gas and did not feel comfortable with tool not to say it did'nt work.Please leave us with something.The industry has taken copper away(soldering),cast iron(chain cutter and proper supports required) now you want to take away threading pipe.
    I am sure the DIYers are licking their lips
  • Harvey Ramer
    Harvey Ramer Member Posts: 2,261
    Personally, I like it. Just bought my first set of megapress jaws a couple weeks ago and I'm all about it.
  • EBEBRATT-Ed
    EBEBRATT-Ed Member Posts: 16,064
    What happens when you have an insulated mega press coupling down the line and and you don't know it's there and somebody puts a pipe wrench on that pipe 20' away to change a fitting????

    As for using it on gas it's now legal in MA up to 5psi....legal until something blows up.

    Just because something meets the code does that mean it's the right thing to use??
  • EBEBRATT-Ed
    EBEBRATT-Ed Member Posts: 16,064
    Liability??
  • GW
    GW Member Posts: 4,795
    don't two wrenches usually get used? I don't quite follow your example.
    Gary Wilson
    Wilson Services, Inc
    Northampton, MA
    gary@wilsonph.com
  • kcopp
    kcopp Member Posts: 4,462
    jonny88 said:

    Used it for a viega display room and have to admit I didnt like it.I used it on gas and did not feel comfortable with tool not to say it did'nt work.Please leave us with something.The industry has taken copper away(soldering),cast iron(chain cutter and proper supports required) now you want to take away threading pipe.
    I am sure the DIYers are licking their lips

    I understand what you are saying but the unfortunate reality is that there is a need for tradesman and not enough are entering our trade. What is the Avg. age for a plumber these days? Mid to late 50's?
    Couple that with the costs of having workers.... not even saying qualified/ good/ reliable ones, it makes it hard for us to get work done in a reasonable time frame.
  • BobC
    BobC Member Posts: 5,491
    I could not get that link to work but I found this -

    http://www.viega.us/xbcr/en-us/IM-MegaPress_566380_1213.pdf

    Table 1.1 on page 6 lists it as being good for steam up to 15 PSI, I just wonder how many decades the EPDM rubber o-rings are really good for.

    Bob
    Smith G8-3 with EZ Gas @ 90,000 BTU, Single pipe steam
    Vaporstat with a 12oz cut-out and 4oz cut-in
    3PSI gauge
  • Snowmelt
    Snowmelt Member Posts: 1,422
    Not to add to the convo, but you have to give credit were credit is due, no home owner if going to buy the press gun, it makes the jobs go by quicker.
    The perfect example would be my own dad, he old school plumbing, he has no idea how to size out a pump or do primery / secoundary , but he does pretty good on service calls, trouble shooting and getting equipment running, but once it runs he needs help on getting the right size pump for a spacific application.
    He loves the press, he gets right in there and takes out old crap and installs new.
  • Abracadabra
    Abracadabra Member Posts: 1,948
    Saw this at a display setup at my suppyhouse few weeks ago. There's some repair situations I can see this coming in very handy. In fact, I have a job to repair a whole bunch of leaks from several unions. Boiler is using over 150g/week. There's no way to install a new union on some of these spots. I was planning on cutting out the union and welding in a new piece of pipe to replace the union. But in some spots where you can slide in a no-stop couplig, this would work nice. For a new job from scratch, I'm still on the fence.

    @jonny88 at about $3K for the kit and $20-$60 for fittings up to 2", not sure you have to worry about DIYers picking this up. jmho.
  • RobG
    RobG Member Posts: 1,850
    Abracadabra said:

    Saw this at a display setup at my suppyhouse few weeks ago. There's some repair situations I can see this coming in very handy. In fact, I have a job to repair a whole bunch of leaks from several unions. Boiler is using over 150g/week. There's no way to install a new union on some of these spots. I was planning on cutting out the union and welding in a new piece of pipe to replace the union. But in some spots where you can slide in a no-stop couplig, this would work nice. For a new job from scratch, I'm still on the fence.

    @jonny88 at about $3K for the kit and $20-$60 for fittings up to 2", not sure you have to worry about DIYers picking this up. jmho.

    As long as there are tool rental companies there will be DIY'ers and hacks who can do it wrong for less money. It's a shame!
  • ChrisJ
    ChrisJ Member Posts: 16,122
    jonny88 said:

    Used it for a viega display room and have to admit I didnt like it.I used it on gas and did not feel comfortable with tool not to say it did'nt work.Please leave us with something.The industry has taken copper away(soldering),cast iron(chain cutter and proper supports required) now you want to take away threading pipe.
    I am sure the DIYers are licking their lips

    I'm a DIYer and no need to lick my lips. I use a swirl tip acetylene torch for soft solder and and silver solder and I have an Ridgid 65R-TC to do threaded pipe. Wrenches from 12" to 48" as well.

    Not all DIYers are unskilled knuckleheads that take the easy way out. :(
    Single pipe quasi-vapor system. Typical operating pressure 0.14 - 0.43 oz. EcoSteam ES-20 Advanced Control for Residential Steam boilers. Rectorseal Steamaster water treatment
  • jonny88
    jonny88 Member Posts: 1,139
    As long as I have been plumbing we only use unions after a gas valve going to appliance.For repair work I remove union and put in a left to right nipple and coupling.Make a swing if the space is to tight.
  • jonny88
    jonny88 Member Posts: 1,139
    No offense intended Chris and looking at your posts and pics I think you are far from a DIYer.I am talking about the the guys who ahhhhh you know what I mean.
  • ChrisJ
    ChrisJ Member Posts: 16,122
    jonny88 said:

    No offense intended Chris and looking at your posts and pics I think you are far from a DIYer.I am talking about the the guys who ahhhhh you know what I mean.

    Hook a garden hose up to a drip leg to feed another appliance? :p
    Single pipe quasi-vapor system. Typical operating pressure 0.14 - 0.43 oz. EcoSteam ES-20 Advanced Control for Residential Steam boilers. Rectorseal Steamaster water treatment
  • Abracadabra
    Abracadabra Member Posts: 1,948
    jonny88 said:

    As long as I have been plumbing we only use unions after a gas valve going to appliance.For repair work I remove union and put in a left to right nipple and coupling.Make a swing if the space is to tight.

    Deadmen used plenty of unions on their steam pipes ;)
  • Steamhead
    Steamhead Member Posts: 17,210
    jonny88 said:

    As long as I have been plumbing we only use unions after a gas valve going to appliance.For repair work I remove union and put in a left to right nipple and coupling.Make a swing if the space is to tight.

    Didn't know those were still available- where do you get them? And can they be used for jobs other than gas?

    All Steamed Up, Inc.
    Towson, MD, USA
    Steam, Vapor & Hot-Water Heating Specialists
    Oil & Gas Burner Service
    Consulting
  • jonny88
    jonny88 Member Posts: 1,139
    Didn't clarify sorry.Only use them on gas as required in nyc.@Steamhead any supply house in NY.If you want I can get some for you and mail them.On steam I use unions all the time.On hot water risers I believe on 10th floor its been a while we use a six elbow swing.TP fitting to brass and make your swing tied in with a union.That was a long time ago maybe JohnNY might be better on that one.

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