Miles of Steam Piping

Paul Pollets

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/10/nyregion/miles-of-steam-pipes-snake-beneath-new-york.html?hpw&rref=nyregion&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&version=HpHedThumbWell&module=well-region&region=bottom-well&WT.nav=bottom-well

DanHolohan

Yum!

RobG

Amazing!

JStar

Yup. Steam ain't goin' nowhere.

RobG

JStar said:

Yup. Steam ain't goin' nowhere.

Yes it is, it is going everywhere!!

Steamhead

Well, I'm sure someone will come on here saying they should convert it to hot-water........

JStar

Steamhead said:

Well, I'm sure someone will come on here saying they should convert it to hot-water........

Don't give "Henry" any ideas.

Robert O'Connor_12

Steam porn

Paul_11

NOT CHEAP TO OPERATE FOR THE END USER, HOWEVER, AND NOT AS GREEN AS THE ARTICLE IMPLIES.

I'm about to sign a contract to convert a 27 story commercial building in the Wall Street from Con Edison steam and put in his own boiler with dual fuel burners.

The owner currently pays $275,000 a year to Con Edison and will cut his bills by over 50% when burning oil.
He will save another 30% when he goes to gas.
he will get his Return on investment (ROI) in 6 years even if he stays on oil.

Con Edison may make the steam with COGEN, but the distribution losses are huge.

There is a reason that my street, East 10th at never a gets covered in ice and neither do many others where the steam runs below.

Then at the building, the condensate gets dumped into the sewer.

Gordy

Snow melt as a by product not waste. Look at the money saved in salt, and snow removal.

Abracadabra

Gordy said:

Snow melt as a by product not waste. Look at the money saved in salt, and snow removal.

Yep.. but snow melt can get damn expensive

Paul_11

How much damage does salt do to a street that does not have any snow because the salt spreaders don't have a GPS that tells them which streets don't need it.

I guess I should calculate how much additional AC we need in NYC or how many deaths are attributed to heat stroke because the buildings who use Con Edison steam to make heat & DHW in the winter also use it to make DHW all summer long.