Welcome! Here are the website rules, as well as some tips for using this forum.
Need to contact us? Visit https://heatinghelp.com/contact-us/.
Click here to Find a Contractor in your area.
Types of compressors rotary vs recip - OLD fridges
ChrisJ
Member Posts: 16,360
I'm curious what the advantages and disadvantages of reciprocating and rotary compressors are?
As many know, I have been restoring two 1930s refrigerators for a while now and I've studied everything I can find on them.
One thing that had me wondering for a bit was why GE switched from SO2 to methyl formate for 2 years and then back to SO2. From what I've found it was due to non-condensibles causing problems due to moisture breaking the refrigerant down. This lead to service calls where repairmen would "bleed" the system and let the non-condensibles out without letting much if any refrigerant out. Either way it lead to angry customers.
What I don't understand is why GE used reciprocating compressors with SO2 but used a rotary design with the methyl formate.
I'm hoping someone may have an idea why? What I can tell you is SO2 is similar to R12 as far as operating pressures where methyl formate operates under a substantial vacuum on the evaporator side. My guess has been a rotary is better at low pressure operation but I have no clue honestly. Both use what appear to be called flooded evaporators where refrigerant flow is regulated with a highside float.
I have a 1933 and 1934 unit which are both methyl formate \rotary units and all I can say is I have never heard such a beautiful sounding pump anywhere else.
On a side note, both reciprocating and rotary compressors used on these have a unloader than holds the intake valve open until oil pressure reaches a certain point. This actually allows the pump to start with a high head pressure and I have personally tested it by unplugging the fridge for a second, allowing it to stop and plugging it back in. It started right up.
As many know, I have been restoring two 1930s refrigerators for a while now and I've studied everything I can find on them.
One thing that had me wondering for a bit was why GE switched from SO2 to methyl formate for 2 years and then back to SO2. From what I've found it was due to non-condensibles causing problems due to moisture breaking the refrigerant down. This lead to service calls where repairmen would "bleed" the system and let the non-condensibles out without letting much if any refrigerant out. Either way it lead to angry customers.
What I don't understand is why GE used reciprocating compressors with SO2 but used a rotary design with the methyl formate.
I'm hoping someone may have an idea why? What I can tell you is SO2 is similar to R12 as far as operating pressures where methyl formate operates under a substantial vacuum on the evaporator side. My guess has been a rotary is better at low pressure operation but I have no clue honestly. Both use what appear to be called flooded evaporators where refrigerant flow is regulated with a highside float.
I have a 1933 and 1934 unit which are both methyl formate \rotary units and all I can say is I have never heard such a beautiful sounding pump anywhere else.
On a side note, both reciprocating and rotary compressors used on these have a unloader than holds the intake valve open until oil pressure reaches a certain point. This actually allows the pump to start with a high head pressure and I have personally tested it by unplugging the fridge for a second, allowing it to stop and plugging it back in. It started right up.
Single pipe 392sqft system with an EG-40 rated for 325sqft and it's silent and balanced at all times.
0
This discussion has been closed.
Categories
- All Categories
- 86.5K THE MAIN WALL
- 3.1K A-C, Heat Pumps & Refrigeration
- 53 Biomass
- 423 Carbon Monoxide Awareness
- 95 Chimneys & Flues
- 2K Domestic Hot Water
- 5.5K Gas Heating
- 101 Geothermal
- 156 Indoor-Air Quality
- 3.5K Oil Heating
- 64 Pipe Deterioration
- 927 Plumbing
- 6.1K Radiant Heating
- 384 Solar
- 15.1K Strictly Steam
- 3.3K Thermostats and Controls
- 54 Water Quality
- 41 Industry Classes
- 48 Job Opportunities
- 17 Recall Announcements