Boiler short cylcing on Low Water Cut Off

NY_Hammer

It's been only one day

but so far it runs fine.

No water hammer anymore, even heat on all radiators.

Shuts off on pressure, at 2psi for now.



I think it's venting mostly by radiator vents, and mains are

undervented, which is wrong, but it's working for now and I will try to fix

it by taking care of the main vents. After that will install vaporstat and try to run the system on 10-16oz.



The water is still a little dirty, they used Hercules Scout to wash the boiler and system.

I will wash and drain the boiler at some point once or twice again to get water cleaner.





So there is a few things still need to be done, but the installation will not be revisited anymore I think.



 

RobG

A couple of things to check

Due to your chimney penetration height, you're Lucky that the boiler fit. I just wonder if the vent hood was cut down to make it fit (from what I have seen, the company does not inspire confidence). You should have 57 1/8" from the floor to the top of the draft hood (where the 90deg. elbow attaches). If it is shorter than 57 1/8" they cut down the draft hood to make it fit. THAT IS WRONG! The boiler was designed to have a specific vertical rise to create proper draft. If the vent hood was cut down, New Yorker will not warranty the product. As well, Was a combustion and draft test done on the new boiler? Was the chimney inspected? These are very important things that need to be addressed.

Please let us know, for your safety as well as your family's

Thanks,

Rob 

ALIGA

Boiler Warranties are Highly suspect anway

most of the time they will tell you to remove the boiler and bring back to the place where you purchased from, and then you are on the hook for labor to uninstall and reinstall.

NY_Hammer

You are right

EXCEPTIONS AND EXCLUSIONS



Removal and Replacement Costs

These warranties do not cover expenses

of removal or reinstallation. The consumer purchaser will be responsible for

the cost of removing and replacing any defective part and all labor and related

materials connected therewith. Replacement parts will be invoiced to the

distributor in the usual manner and will be subject to adjustment upon proof of purchase.

pipeking

i never seen steel pipe slither!

 it reminds me of a spiral mailbox post i made one time with all 45* and 5" nipples. but  i'm glad u got them to do something that resembles the installation recommendations in the manual. much better then what it was. well, it is fundamentally correct.mostly

 just wondering, did u end up talking to anyone on there side that understood y a steam boiler has to be installed this way, or did anyone acknowledge their ignorance?

RobG

So?

Is the vent height correct? Was a combustion analyses done?

Rob

NY_Hammer

It's fine

the height is correct, they didn't cut anything from the hood.

The chimney was checked, but no "combustion analyses" to my knowledge was done.



The openings from all side and above meet the required by the manual.



Don't really know what else to say ...

NY_Hammer

Well, yes and no

It started when I asked master plumber over the phone if not do dropped header to at least lift the regular header as much as possible.

Right after that he, out of the blue mentioned "lost art" of steam heating, and said that somebody named Dan Hologan said not to do it very high. I just told him it's quite the opposite, said I read Dan's book and send him a link to Dan's boiler installation video.



Next day he came and did everything like in that video.

NY_Hammer

found another place where I can put a vent on short main.

it's right location and has a plug in it, but it's very difficult to approach.

Here are the pictures:



As you can see from the first picture it's behind a wall which has very small opening.

And from the looks of it the plug is very old.



Any ideas what is the best way to take the plug out?



Thanks

RobG

Thats good

It's great that they did not cut down the draft hood. They got lucky because that boiler barley fits the space provided. As for the combustion, gas train  and draft analyses it should definitely be done. It shouldn't cost much (relatively speaking), your boiler is new and doesn't require a cleaning as well. I would definitely find someone other than the original installers. The reason it should be done is to ensure that the unit is drafting correctly (not spilling CO into your house) and that it is burning as efficiently as possible and all safeties are working correctly. Whoever does this should give you a printed copy of the results for your file (his combustion analyzer will print the results on the spot).

Please do this for you and your families safety. CO is odorless and deadly.

Rob