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"Right-sizing" a system after renewable additions
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I recently added renewable fuel options (wood, pellets) to a fairly large thirteen year-old home that has previously relied on a single boiler for heat and DHW. Now my boiler is oversized and I'm looking for more efficient options. In addition, I plan on adding solar hot water to the mix in the future and need something that will integrate well.
**The home**: 1200 sq.ft./floor (Basement, 1st, 2nd); 3600 sq.ft. heated space. Attached 1000 sq.ft. mother-in-law appartment on the other side of the garage.
**The system**: Radiant floor heating throughout. Shared DHW with a 230' round-trip insulated recirculation loop to the appartment controlled by an aquastat set to 5-degree differential. Fuel: Propane. Boiler: Buderus G234X-45 paired with a Phase III HL-60 indirect water heater. Both the water heater and radiant supply are fed directly from the main boiler loop.
**The situation**: The house is 5-star energy rated and we found that the wood & pellet heating options eliminate the need for radiant heat (warm floors aside). This means the Buderus G234X-45 is waaaaaay oversized for the DHW needs and is running inefficiently. I tracked the on-off cycles for the recirc loop and boiler. Results: Recirc cycles apprx every 1/2 hour. At 3.5gal/cycle I calc'd a 300BTU/hr. energy loss. Boiler cycles apprx every 1.5 hours and runs about 4-5 min. each time. Including showers, dishes, etc. that makes about 1.5-2.0hrs run time per day. I have all lines including the boiler loop insulated but sure I'm losing a bunch of heat from the boiler.
**Questions**: Some questions I see are these: 1) Should I get a separate DHW source for the apartment and eliminate the recirculation loop?, 2) Should I continue to use the Phase III tank?, and 3) What are the best options for DHW supply for the main house and/or apartment that will integrate well with solar in the future?
I have considered options ranging from on-demand units for each side to just replacing the boiler with a high-efficiency low-mass unit. I'm not a pro but trying to do my homework. All opinions welcome. Thanks.
**The home**: 1200 sq.ft./floor (Basement, 1st, 2nd); 3600 sq.ft. heated space. Attached 1000 sq.ft. mother-in-law appartment on the other side of the garage.
**The system**: Radiant floor heating throughout. Shared DHW with a 230' round-trip insulated recirculation loop to the appartment controlled by an aquastat set to 5-degree differential. Fuel: Propane. Boiler: Buderus G234X-45 paired with a Phase III HL-60 indirect water heater. Both the water heater and radiant supply are fed directly from the main boiler loop.
**The situation**: The house is 5-star energy rated and we found that the wood & pellet heating options eliminate the need for radiant heat (warm floors aside). This means the Buderus G234X-45 is waaaaaay oversized for the DHW needs and is running inefficiently. I tracked the on-off cycles for the recirc loop and boiler. Results: Recirc cycles apprx every 1/2 hour. At 3.5gal/cycle I calc'd a 300BTU/hr. energy loss. Boiler cycles apprx every 1.5 hours and runs about 4-5 min. each time. Including showers, dishes, etc. that makes about 1.5-2.0hrs run time per day. I have all lines including the boiler loop insulated but sure I'm losing a bunch of heat from the boiler.
**Questions**: Some questions I see are these: 1) Should I get a separate DHW source for the apartment and eliminate the recirculation loop?, 2) Should I continue to use the Phase III tank?, and 3) What are the best options for DHW supply for the main house and/or apartment that will integrate well with solar in the future?
I have considered options ranging from on-demand units for each side to just replacing the boiler with a high-efficiency low-mass unit. I'm not a pro but trying to do my homework. All opinions welcome. Thanks.
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