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Pneumatic Controls

Does anybody have information on a replacement part for this Powers pneumatic thermostat?  There was no number on it that I could see.
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  • furnacefigher15
    furnacefigher15 Member Posts: 514
    Application

    Not off hand do I have #'s.



    What is it being used for? To control what?
  • meplumber
    meplumber Member Posts: 678
    Good Luck Gordo

    I have pulled a crap load of those old Landis & Gyr and Powers systems out of schools and hospitals. Sorry, but the few parts that we scavenged have been used up long ago.



    Johnstone Supply used to have some aftermarket pneumatic parts. Nothing OEM, but they were all pretty much the same. If you can match the opening and closing force pressures, you should be ok.



    Good Luck to you.
  • tim smith
    tim smith Member Posts: 2,807
    Re Pneumatics

    Get as much data and pics and get in touch with local commercial honeywell or Johnson rep. They will help you find functional replacement.
  • sasman
    sasman Member Posts: 32
    edited January 2012
    t-stat

    www.customer.honeywell.com/Pneumatics





    22mb, wasn't going to try and attach
  • Gordo
    Gordo Member Posts: 857
    Pneumatics

    My knowledge and experience with pneumatics is not what it should be.



    This is a 1/2" D.A.(?) valve to an old Carrier convector unit with fan motor.



    During the winter, it gets hot water and then summer time, chilled water (?).



    It looks like the overall pneumatic system is two pressure, either summer/winter or daytime/nighttime (?).



    The thermostat has two 1/4" copper pipes to it, one is supply and one to the actuator and it has a remote sensing bulb in the inlet air steam of the unit.
    All Steamed Up, Inc.
    "Reducing our country's energy consumption, one system at a time"
    Steam, Vapor & Hot-Water Heating Specialists
    Oil & Gas Burner Service
    Baltimore, MD (USA) and consulting anywhere.
    https://heatinghelp.com/find-a-contractor/detail/all-steamed-up-inc
  • Gordo
    Gordo Member Posts: 857
    Thanks for the Reply

    Yep, I starting from way down the learning curve on this one.
    All Steamed Up, Inc.
    "Reducing our country's energy consumption, one system at a time"
    Steam, Vapor & Hot-Water Heating Specialists
    Oil & Gas Burner Service
    Baltimore, MD (USA) and consulting anywhere.
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  • Gordo
    Gordo Member Posts: 857
    That's a Good Suggestion

    I hope they might meet me on-site. 
    All Steamed Up, Inc.
    "Reducing our country's energy consumption, one system at a time"
    Steam, Vapor & Hot-Water Heating Specialists
    Oil & Gas Burner Service
    Baltimore, MD (USA) and consulting anywhere.
    https://heatinghelp.com/find-a-contractor/detail/all-steamed-up-inc
  • Wesman
    Wesman Member Posts: 16
    Pneumatic help

    Take a look at the following from Siemens.  The valve can be replaced with part #268-03165.  This should be a 1/2 in female x female NPT normally open valve.  The spring range will be 3-8 psi.  3 will be open, 8 will be closed. 

    The thermostat is more challenging.  Take a look at 188-0030.  This will be a summer winter stat with a 4 foot capillary.  It will control between 60 and 85 degrees F.  Ask the building engineer what main line pressure they use in the summer and winter.  If its 18 and 25 you should be on the right track. 



    Each manufacturer uses a different changeover pressure.  Honeywell is 13 and 18.  Johnson is 15 and 20.  Intermixing manufacturers in summer winter or day night applications is possible but tricky.
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