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moneypitfeeder
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Finally finished repiping my boiler, and for once in I don't know how many years, the condensate is returning to the boiler. The system is running quietly and steam is hitting the ends of the mains very fast. From a dead start with cold water added it took about 10-12 minutes till the end of mains got hot.I still have a little tweeking to do, and I need to insulate everything again, but all in all I'm very happy with the outcome. (and sore) I have the utmost respect for those of you that do this kind of thing everyday. The before pics are located here <a href="http://www.heatinghelp.com/forum-thread/135119/question-on-return-trap-air-vent">http://www.heatinghelp.com/forum-thread/135119/question-on-return-trap-air-vent</a> and here's the afters. I would not have been able to redo any of this without Dan's books, and all the info, advice, and help I have received on this site. Thank you all. Dee
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Looks pretty sweet Dee
Here is everything I got on insulation. http://www.heatinghelp.com/forum-thread/137178/Insulation0 -
Thanks
I've read that post several times, I love how you show how to deal with all the different fittings!There was an error rendering this rich post.
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Congrats!
What is that blue device on the wall?0 -
That's
a Return Trap. This is a Vapor system.All Steamed Up, Inc.
Towson, MD, USA
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that beast is
A Marsh return trap and next to it the blue can is the air eliminator. My system fully heats the house at 1/2 of a psi. (the needle on my low pressure gauge just flutters just above zero)There was an error rendering this rich post.
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Trap
How old is the trap in the photo? How many traps in the entire system?0 -
My best guess
Would be 1920-1924, The diagram for the system is here http://www.heatinghelp.com/article/163/Older-Steam-Heating-Systems/2037/Marsh-System-of-Vapor-Heating
They were marketing a different system in 1918 and my house was built in 1925. The return trap was still stamped patent pending, so it was before a patent was given.
There is the return trap & air eliminator, at the ends of both my mains there were Marsh No. 5 vents, and there are (mostly, some have been changed or were added later) Marsh No 1 radiator traps.
The ends of the mains were changed to a Gorton No. 2 at each side. Jury is still out as to if the air eliminator, (small blue can in photo) is venting fast enough or not, seems to be, but I left myself an easy out if I need to add venting there by using 2 unions on the pipe that feeds it. If I need to add venting I should be able to take that piece out without disrupting the rest of the piping and reconfigure that section with a new vent added in.There was an error rendering this rich post.
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Fantastic Job! Fantastic System!
You have done a fantastic job of repiping and getting the system into its optimum configuration! Wow!
I also really like that your system is completely intact and you serviced and repainted your return trap and air eliminator.
My Dunham system components were removed a long time ago, replaced with a condensate return pump. Now that I am running a vaporstat, it is completely not needed.Dave in Quad Cities, America
Weil-McLain 680 with Riello 2-stage burner, December 2012. Firing rate=375MBH Low, 690MBH Hi.
System = Early Dunham 2-pipe Vacuo-Vapor (inlet and outlet both at bottom of radiators) Traps are Dunham #2 rebuilt w. Barnes-Jones Cage Units, Dunham-Bush 1E, Mepco 1E, and Armstrong TS-2. All valves haveTunstall orifices sized at 8 oz.
Current connected load EDR= 1,259 sq ft, Original system EDR = 2,100 sq ft Vaporstat, 13 oz cutout, 4 oz cutin - Temp. control Tekmar 279.
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I'm jealous
I'm still at least 2 weeks out before I'll have heat other than my pellet stove.
You did a good job! I hope mine ends up even half as good.Single pipe quasi-vapor system. Typical operating pressure 0.14 - 0.43 oz. EcoSteam ES-20 Advanced Control for Residential Steam boilers. Rectorseal Steamaster water treatment0 -
thanks!
Your system is looking good too, I see you went with Ward also, I really liked those fittings, some things I didn't account for, and had to go with what was nearby and available, man did I notice a difference. Love your oversized header she'll have dry steam for sure!There was an error rendering this rich post.
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