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tappping a new hole
humhead
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in a cast iron steam radiator for a new vent hole. What size drill bit do I use for a 1/8 tap? I am installing a Burnham radiant. I need to install the vent on the right side of the radiator, and I can not remove the slotted plug. Would it be wiser to drill out the plug. using an (easy-out)? Any suggestions would be great.
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Tapping Hole:
Before I tried drilling a new hole, I would try to get theslottedd plug out. I would drill a hole in the middle of the plug and carefully enlarge it. I use a Dremel Tool. They sell a carbide grinder bit that is around 1/8". Grind it carefully and try your screw extractor. Then run a 1/8" pipe tap through it.0 -
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He's right. Cast is a bummer to drill into. Slow, many bits, need to oil the bit, etc. Stress on the carefully part.0 -
stripped
I'm about to do some work on one of my rads as well. The 1/8" hole is stripped so I'm planning on drilling it out some and tapping it for 1/4" and then installing a 1/4" to 1/8" nickel plated bushing.
I hope I can pull it off.Single pipe 392sqft system with an EG-40 rated for 325sqft and it's silent and balanced at all times.
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Drilling Cast Iron
When you drill cast iron, be patient. Make sure you have a very sharp big, don't drill so fast that you burn up the bit. It will take a while and it tends to wear out bits, but it's not that big of a deal.
I have seen many radiators that had to be drilled out, then bushed with a 1/4 x 1/8 bushing because the original thread were worn out and enlarged. This is one reason that I never recommend turning a vent upside down as a means of turning a radiator on and off. Ultimately, damage is likely to occur, especially if the vent turning is being done by the hands of a person who is not mechanically inclined.Dave in Quad Cities, America
Weil-McLain 680 with Riello 2-stage burner, December 2012. Firing rate=375MBH Low, 690MBH Hi.
System = Early Dunham 2-pipe Vacuo-Vapor (inlet and outlet both at bottom of radiators) Traps are Dunham #2 rebuilt w. Barnes-Jones Cage Units, Dunham-Bush 1E, Mepco 1E, and Armstrong TS-2. All valves haveTunstall orifices sized at 8 oz.
Current connected load EDR= 1,259 sq ft, Original system EDR = 2,100 sq ft Vaporstat, 13 oz cutout, 4 oz cutin - Temp. control Tekmar 279.
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threads
Dave,
I noticed on most of my rads I only get around 2 MAYBE 3 turns on my vents before its tight. Usually 1.5 turns it starts to feel snug then I go a half a turn to get it pointing upward. The threads appear to be in a decent shape.
This seems odd to me as usually you get a good 4 turns or so on an 1/8" pipe no?
I'm thinking about running an 1/8" tap through most of the threads to clean them up. Maybe a bad idea?Single pipe 392sqft system with an EG-40 rated for 325sqft and it's silent and balanced at all times.
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good idea
If you aren't getting many turns, the threads are likely rusted or otherwise clogged up. I agree with your idea. I would clean them out with your 1/8 tap, clean off the threads on the vent, then reinstall the vent with a proper amount of teflon tape.Dave in Quad Cities, America
Weil-McLain 680 with Riello 2-stage burner, December 2012. Firing rate=375MBH Low, 690MBH Hi.
System = Early Dunham 2-pipe Vacuo-Vapor (inlet and outlet both at bottom of radiators) Traps are Dunham #2 rebuilt w. Barnes-Jones Cage Units, Dunham-Bush 1E, Mepco 1E, and Armstrong TS-2. All valves haveTunstall orifices sized at 8 oz.
Current connected load EDR= 1,259 sq ft, Original system EDR = 2,100 sq ft Vaporstat, 13 oz cutout, 4 oz cutin - Temp. control Tekmar 279.
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tap type
Dave,
Would you recommend a "high speed steel" tap or a "carbon steel" tap for tapping radiators? I'm asking only because I have to assume the HSS tap would hold up better tapping cast iron.Single pipe 392sqft system with an EG-40 rated for 325sqft and it's silent and balanced at all times.
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