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NickC
NickC Member Posts: 4
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I'm involved in a building that has an existing two pipe steam system and they will be upgrading the system.

Two questions,  (1) we need an 87% efficient gas fired steam boiler for a 14 story building with 200 apts. (2) It was mentioned about using orifices to get better efficiency out of the steam system.

whatever information you can offer would be greatly appreciated

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  • Greg Maxwell
    Greg Maxwell Member Posts: 212
    Steam Boiler

    What is in there now? Post this on the stritly steam page as well.
  • NickC
    NickC Member Posts: 4
    Steam Boiler

    (2) AL Eastmond FST- 150 currently with a heat exchanger to hot water which will also be eliminated
  • Rod
    Rod Posts: 2,067
    Radiator Orifices

    Hi - Here are a couple of links to discussions on orifices which might be of interest to you.

    Check out the links in the postings as there is some more orifice info there.

    http://www.heatinghelp.com/forum-thread/134629/Inlet-pipe-restricters-2-pipe-steam



    http://www.heatinghelp.com/article/163/Older-Steam-Heating-Systems/1320/Orifices-for-Steam-Radiators

    Where are you located?

    - Rod
  • NickC
    NickC Member Posts: 4
    Nick C

    New York,
  • NickC
    NickC Member Posts: 4
    Nick C

    New York,
  • nicholas bonham-carter
    nicholas bonham-carter Member Posts: 8,578
    edited August 2011
    upgrading multi-story steam system

    if you have the wrong "expert" on this job he may think "upgrade" means "increase the steam pressure"! probably, 12 ounces would be a good maximum for this, with a low back-pressure for the venting phase.

    as far as the 87% efficient boiler, you could make hot water with the flue gas, but it may be difficult to get a steam boiler "straight out of the box", with that sort of efficiency, which is usually associated with hot-water heat. in your case, you would need a hot-water boiler on every other floor because of the pressure of 14 floors of water. the efficiency soon gets depleted by the cost of running electric pumps.



    orifices would be a good fit on this, but pay attention to how the air is allowed to escape so the steam can come in. mr gifford [the orifice expert] is a new yorker too, so you could meet him on his home ground.--nbc
  • Steamhead
    Steamhead Member Posts: 17,353
    edited August 2011
    We have a couple similar boilers

    FST-175s with PowerFlame C-series gas burners running full-mod. What burners are on yours? How are they controlled? Are the boilers oversized?
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    Towson, MD, USA
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