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Kitec Class Action...

Mark Eatherton
Mark Eatherton Member Posts: 5,839
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ME
It's not so much a case of "You got what you paid for", as it is a matter of "You DIDN'T get what you DIDN'T pay for, and you're NOT going to get what you thought you were in the way of comfort". Borrowed from Heatboy.

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  • Leo_G
    Leo_G Member Posts: 89
    WHEW!

    Well Mark, I used to be known as the guy who would try anything new back in the day. But for some reason I decided not to get involved with Kitec. It bothered me somehow. Anyway pretty happy for me and my customers that I never did try that stuff out. What a mess eh?
  • Leo_G
    Leo_G Member Posts: 89
    Hey Mark,

    What of the other manufactures that are still producing this PAP tubing? Any whispers about their products?
  • Mark Eatherton
    Mark Eatherton Member Posts: 5,839
    Yo Leo, Leo O....

    (from the Wizard of Oz)... ;-)



    Roth



    http://www.roth-usa.com/files/Submittal_AluLaser_Plus.pdf



    Watts Radiant has a line of PAP.



    There are some other manufacturers out there who have slipped my mind I am sure. Someone will chime in with the others.



    I've also seen some foreign stuff coming around (think China).



    Quite honestly, if it was used in a closed loop application, I've not personally witnessed any fitting failures, and I am only aware of 1 case of tubing failure, and it was up in Washington State, and I think it was being misused (160 constant, with fresh potable water and high concentration of chlorine and excess velocity).



    The Californicating environ-mentals are the root cause with their "Get The Lead Out" campaign. Zinc was substituted for lead in brass fittings to plug the micro pores in the metal, and it leaches out due to water chemistry (de-zincafication). Tell tale sign of failure is a white residue on the face of the fitting. In potable apps, the fitting will eventually completely fail, and could cause a lot of water damage.



    I suspect that Kitec is cutting their losses by submitting to the class action. It would have been more expensive to fight than to bank roll it...



    Numerous other tubing/fixture manufacturers are also having the same issues, and we can expect the same results.



    Now you can see why the Germans don't want to do business here in the US of A.... Too many hungry lawyers...



    ME
    It's not so much a case of "You got what you paid for", as it is a matter of "You DIDN'T get what you DIDN'T pay for, and you're NOT going to get what you thought you were in the way of comfort". Borrowed from Heatboy.
  • Leo_G
    Leo_G Member Posts: 89
    OH!

    That is what I have been missing, the change from lead to zinc in the brass.



    As I keep saying in other non-heating related blogs, "there are always unintended consequences!"
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