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  • Steamhead
    Steamhead Member Posts: 16,832

    if they didn't use the hi-temp o-rings on the ProPress fittings, that would be wrong- assuming even these are steam-rated. But how would you know?

    We might ProPress a return line, but would never use it for steam-carrying pipes.
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  • MikeyB
    MikeyB Member Posts: 696
    edited June 2011

    Why even bother doing a portion of the  Equalizer & Hartford Loop Connection in screw pipe?
  • ChrisJ
    ChrisJ Member Posts: 15,672
    edited June 2011
    I'm a noob but I'll give it a shot.

    I figure the best way to learn is to try.

    They used copper for the riser, header and mains.  These will probably have failed joints in the near future.

    And for some reason they used a tiny amount of iron in the one spot they could have used copper?
    Single pipe quasi-vapor system. Typical operating pressure 0.14 - 0.43 oz. EcoSteam ES-20 Advanced Control for Residential Steam boilers. Rectorseal Steamaster water treatment
    STEAM DOCTOR Member Posts: 1,967

    The union on the boiler riser is useless. Didn't help assembly and wont help disassembly
  • Greg Maxwell
    Greg Maxwell Member Posts: 212
    Steam piping

    Looks like the job of a good hot water guy
  • Paul Fredricks_3
    Paul Fredricks_3 Member Posts: 1,557
    You're all right

    I wasn't aware there were pro press fittings that could handle steam. But even if they were rated for the temps, I'd assume the movement of the pipes would cause a lot of issues.
  • Greg Maxwell
    Greg Maxwell Member Posts: 212
    pro press header

    If I were you, I would remove and replace that header before you get into the heating season.
  • gerry gill
    gerry gill Member Posts: 3,078

    i wonder how long it will last? I'm gonna have to use that picture for a class i'll be doing at the plumbers meeting..i think they will get a kick out of it..how did you run across it?
    Serving Cleveland's eastern suburbs from Cleveland Heights down to Cuyahoga Falls.

  • Danny Scully
    Danny Scully Member Posts: 1,424

    I was actually pondering this scenario once, so I proposed it to Dan at a seminar. I started by saying, "while I would never do this, what would you think about using press fittings to put a steamer together on the fly? Wouldn't the o-ring connections work well for expansion and contraction while not disturbing the seal?". While Dan didn't respond with an enthusiastic "Yes!", he did agree. At the end of the day, the header is well above the recommended height, there are no bullheaded tees, and the hartford loop looks textbook. Lets find something else to talk about :)
  • Charlie from wmass
    Charlie from wmass Member Posts: 4,322
    Could be worse

    The installer will have cashed the last check before the fittings fail and they will blame pro press for saying the fittings would work on steam when they fail. Any one see any installations with the press steel fittings yet?
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  • Paul Fredricks_3
    Paul Fredricks_3 Member Posts: 1,557
    Here's the deal

    We are strictly an oil company, no gas work. We do oil heat inspections for home inspectors. This house was listed as oil which is how we ended up there. We couldn't do the inspection, but I did snap the picture before I left. Thought you guys would like it.

    As stated above, yes, the piping looks right, except for the copper and pro press. This conversion was done 2 years ago, so it's been through at least one winter. I suggested to the home inspector that he may want to do some research on weather this is to code.

    Feel free to use the pic, Gerry. I know I will.
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