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Riello 40 F3 strainer housing gasket

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timo888
timo888 Member Posts: 137
Not sure if I've called this gasket by its official name.  The Riello pump has a metal housing that fits over the strainer. Inside the housing is the strainer and a skinny o-ring. Sandwiched between the metal housing and the pump is supposed to be a rectangular gasket,  pinkish/flesh-colored, no?



If the tech, when replacing the strainer, should forget to install that gasket, could either of the following things result?



-- lots of air gets into the pump via the poor seal, causing delayed-ignition problems and difficulties purging the line



-- the pump  wears out prematurely



Why do I ask? The oil company came by late this afternoon on its third service call, as our boiler is still having delayed ignition rumbling and rattling which began after the last service, during which the strainer was replaced.  On the first service call the tech replaced the nozzle; on the second service call they installed a 10-micron spin-on. Today, on the third service call, as I watched the tech disassemble the strainer housing, there was no such gasket. Just the strainer and a skinny black o-ring.



I'm looking at their invoice for $330 as I type.

Thanks.

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  • billtwocase
    billtwocase Member Posts: 2,385
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    they gotta use

    the "O" ring on all Riello pumps. It will most likely leak otherwise, as the gasket is supplied, but not with Riello's blessing. I would also question those bills. If they can not fix it, find someone who can. Good luck
  • timo888
    timo888 Member Posts: 137
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    Riello training

    I have been trying to get from the manufacturers a list of companies that have completed factory training. But it appears they don't want to "upset the applecart" by providing such useful information to the end-user.
  • icesailor
    icesailor Member Posts: 7,265
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    Riello Handbook:

    Order this book.

    Firedragon needs the money. He also does courses.

    Be careful and don't act there like you have here. Firedragon has a flaming tongue. Harmless though.



    http://www.firedragonent.com/Books.htm
  • timo888
    timo888 Member Posts: 137
    edited April 2011
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    dont act like I have here ???

    "Don't act like you have here" 



    Now what's THAT supposed to mean?  My intention is always to be polite and respectful. Show me where I've erred and I'll mend my ways.



    Tone is easy to misread on internet forums when you're just looking at words on a page.  Remember, too, it was you who characterized my heating oil company's work as "crap" and as "giving oil a bad  name", and you who referred to the tech as a "parts changer".



    I wasn't even aware their work was so shoddy until people here on this forum started pointing it out to me, left and right.



    Thanks for the link. 
  • icesailor
    icesailor Member Posts: 7,265
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    Forgive me for replying:

    You came here and asked how to turn down your pump pressure on your fuel pump for some reason, known only to your self. No amount of contrary suggestions would seem to sway you from your mission.

    It's your right to do whatever you wish, with whomever you wish and whenever. Provided you have their permission if it becomes dangerous.

    My comments to you about Firedragon were for your own information and protection. His discussion group is by invitation only and is for professionals. They are not as tolerant over there as we are here for foolishness. There are a few members of the Firedragon's group here. I haven't seen them chime in with encouragement for you.

    In an age where conventional wisdom on oil equipment is to raise the pump pressure to achieve better atomization and to down size nozzles to protect from over firing, you come along and want an explanation on how to downsize your burner by lowering the pump pressure.

    Knock Thine self Out.
  • Steamhead
    Steamhead Member Posts: 16,889
    edited April 2011
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    Icy

    you have two threads mixed up. Tim088 started the pre-filter thread, not the one where the guy wanted to reduce his pump pressure. 
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    Towson, MD, USA
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  • timo888
    timo888 Member Posts: 137
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    thanks for pointing that out

    icy's remarks seemed to come out of nowhere and I was wondering what was going on.



    Glad to hear you have me confused with somebody else, icy, who is the proper target of your wrath. I was beginning to think I'd said something truly offensive without even realizing it.   I thought maybe it  was back when I said I expected techs to use metric tools when working with metric fasteners.  You know, for some folks, SAE and USA are synonyms.
  • icesailor
    icesailor Member Posts: 7,265
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    Riello Strainer Gasket:

    Truly sorry for the mix up.
  • Jean-David Beyer
    Jean-David Beyer Member Posts: 2,666
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    Metric tools for metric fasteners?

    I have seen a lot of mechanics (I choose to call them) who use ChannelLock pliers on everything. One size fits all. It used to offend me. It still does. They use flat bladed screw drivers on Philips Head screws and on cap screws that need Allen keys or spline keys. Then they wonder why everything is $%^#ed up. And they have calibrated elbows and wrists so they do not need torque wrenches for stuff like steel spark plugs in aluminum cylinder heads, etc.
  • timo888
    timo888 Member Posts: 137
    edited April 2011
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    no problemo

    Not a problem, icesailor -- glad I didn't deserve the rebuke :-) You've been very helpful with information in my other threads, so you had built up a "good will cushion", and so you're still ahead of the game.
  • timo888
    timo888 Member Posts: 137
    edited April 2011
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    xx

    xx -- duplicate
  • timo888
    timo888 Member Posts: 137
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    torque wrenches

    Worse than the tech with the perfectly calibrated wrist is the "tech" that believes "as tight as I can possibly get it" is the goal. I once had a flat tire and was stuck on a back road for most of the night (back before the days of cell-phones) because I couldn't budge the lug nut even by standing and bouncing on the lug wrench.



    With some patience, I managed to find some great deals on eBay for a range of sizes of the beautifully made Sturtevant Richmont beam-style torque wrenches, which can be manually recalibrated...."virtually maintenance and repair free!" :



    http://www.srtorque.com/Products/SystemsandTools/Product%20Pages/FlatBeamTW.html
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