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David Sutton_6
David Sutton_6 Member Posts: 1,079
Saw this today in a house built in 1909, There is also a hole house steam indirect with outside air intake, as soon as i can get my stupid puter to download my camera i will add the picture ;-)

Where my finger is i am holding open a springloaded tray about 2" wide with a slight dip in the back side when shut, i was wondering if this was filled with water for moisture or some kind of clip to hold a  curtain of sorts???





David

aka DrPepper

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  • DanHolohan
    DanHolohan Member, Moderator, Administrator Posts: 16,490
    Looks like

    American Radiator's Rococo. Scroll down to page 48:

    http://www.heatinghelp.com/files/articles/1256/205.pdf



    Nice find!



    I'd say the tray is for what you suggested. Thanks for sharing.
    Retired and loving it.
  • Steamhead
    Steamhead Member Posts: 16,725
    Close

    but not a Rococo. That's an H.B. Smith "Imperial". No other manufacturer used that pattern on the center column. EDR, page 76.
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  • David Sutton_6
    David Sutton_6 Member Posts: 1,079
    Springfield, Mass

    This house over looks the Conn river , it 4200 sq ft built in 1909



    Look at the bathroom sink, its the original sink
  • DanHolohan
    DanHolohan Member, Moderator, Administrator Posts: 16,490
    Thanks!

    I should start reading my own books. ;-)
    Retired and loving it.
  • DanHolohan
    DanHolohan Member, Moderator, Administrator Posts: 16,490
    Gorgeous!

    What a house!
    Retired and loving it.
  • David Sutton_6
    David Sutton_6 Member Posts: 1,079
    Tub fawcett

    this is the original tub as well
  • Steamhead
    Steamhead Member Posts: 16,725
    Must be a mansion

    is the steam system one-pipe, Vapor or 2-pipe air-vent? 
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  • David Sutton_6
    David Sutton_6 Member Posts: 1,079
    edited April 2011
    yup nice Mansion

    2 pipe steam /vent, got some great pictures of the inside of the whole house indirect, post them as soon as i can.





    update !!  got the photos to upload !!! yea !!
  • David Sutton_6
    David Sutton_6 Member Posts: 1,079
    edited April 2011
    more pics

    .In the picture you can see the outside make up air was disconnected,
  • Steamhead
    Steamhead Member Posts: 16,725
    That might be

    an original Gold indirect system, from way back. Have to look it up when I get home. 
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  • David Sutton_6
    David Sutton_6 Member Posts: 1,079
    this system is still being used right now !!

    .
  • Charlie from wmass
    Charlie from wmass Member Posts: 4,314
    You must be down the street from me on Long hill!

    Thats the only area near me in Springfield that has houses like that. It must be H.B.Smith radiators if it is in Springfield. Thanks for sharing the photo's
    Cost is what you spend , value is what you get.

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  • David Sutton_6
    David Sutton_6 Member Posts: 1,079
    yup Longhill,

    you working on longhill ???
  • Charlie from wmass
    Charlie from wmass Member Posts: 4,314
    I live off of Sumner St.

    David. I drive up Long Hill on my way home every day. I am out at Da's house this week though. It is school vacation week and I am out here with the boys.
    Cost is what you spend , value is what you get.

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  • Steamhead
    Steamhead Member Posts: 16,725
    Found it

    the following attachment is from the illustration opposite page 64 of Susan Reed Stifler's book, "The Beginnings of a Century of Steam and Water Heating" which chronicles the rise of the industry and of the H.B. Smith Company. I believe Ms. Stifler was the daughter of John Reed, an early member of H.B. Smith who, among other things, invented the Reed radiator. This book is required reading.



    The boiler shown in these illustrations is the Gold boiler, the first one the Smith company made, and the indirect heaters inside the brick chamber are clearly shown. But the one in this house is a Mercer, a later Smith model which may have been the first to use the three-pass design (and the one that isn't built into the brickwork is a Mills).



    So this is either a much older installation than we think, and the Mercer replaced a Gold boiler, or if 1909 is correct it's a much later installation that may be one of the last of its type. Not sure if this is true in Massachusetts, but around Baltimore we sometimes find that a house is older than the real-estate records.



    David, you have a museum here. I wonder if the owner would consent to a tour?
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  • David Sutton_6
    David Sutton_6 Member Posts: 1,079
    You come out ...

    And i will get you in Frank any day is good :-)



    David
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