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clammy
clammy Member Posts: 3,113
Is it totally me or is every supply house carring garbage or what .I don't think wanting to get 1/2 doz hoffmann 1A would be so difficult .If i would  want some over price dole.watts made in china everybody has them,  ask for a couple of hoffmanns 1A no dice .I called 6 local supply house no body has them but they did offer me all the easy mark up brands .What is the world or the USA  coming to the home of garbage  where if you can't mark it up 100% why sell it .It's great if you are offering a tail light warranty on those vents or don't mind going back for free and changing them for some more garbage.Sorry for the super rant but i wasted about 2.5 hours today between driving and alling ended up gving in and going to the homo depo at least your an return them  jsut pick up for the first time maid o mist at least i can return them for cash instead of never getting credit for them at the supply house .Again sorry for the super rant but then what is the world coming to .Anybody else see this or is it just me ? peace and good luck clammy
R.A. Calmbacher L.L.C. HVAC
NJ Master HVAC Lic.
Mahwah, NJ
Specializing in steam and hydronic heating

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  • Irv
    Irv Member Posts: 95
    edited February 2011
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    Clammy

    I picked up some vent rite( 1 ) at patriot supply made in USA adjustable and quiet

    they were able to get them in one day.

    Regards

    Irv
  • Steamhead
    Steamhead Member Posts: 16,856
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    R.E. Michel

    carries Hoffman and Vent-Rite. Call Gorton to see who handles their vents in your area- 908-276-1323.
    All Steamed Up, Inc.
    Towson, MD, USA
    Steam, Vapor & Hot-Water Heating Specialists
    Oil & Gas Burner Service
    Consulting
  • clammy
    clammy Member Posts: 3,113
    edited February 2011
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    i know

    Yeah Frank i know who is suppose to carry them but it seems every body wants cheap so those who are suppose to carry both brands tend to push and sell the cheaper easier marked up brands over Hoffman and Gorton (being they are out of stock concerning hoffmanns and gortons).In the future i will just direct my customers  to go to pex supply and order them there they are about 50 to 65% cheaper then the supply houses and much less of a run around and hassle for me .I personally don't deal with on line supply houses they are to face less to me and i do like to support my local supply house i think it is a good thing but when it comes to rad vents i believe i am done with the chase and paying alot for garbage vents that fail and i replace them and get no credit on my account it is not worth it plus i cannot afford it and i try to be fair to my customers weather they are new or old  ones.With the last search I ended up going to the cheapo getting maid of mists and they seemed to work fine gave HO the receipt so when the go they can replace them .I was offered them also at a big chain supply house at about a 100% mark up over the cheapo pretty funny at least at the depo they can be return the supply house forget about it .With every passing day things seem to not get better just worse and the ethics of some companies don't fall to far from bernie madoff in what they do and there excuses to jack a bill and not really fix the issue at hand being they would not make any easy money on big mark up on parts strange days it seems .I guess i should start thinking like everybody else being that's what every body else does but i guess sooner then later i will go the way of the dodo bird .Peace and good luck clammy
    R.A. Calmbacher L.L.C. HVAC
    NJ Master HVAC Lic.
    Mahwah, NJ
    Specializing in steam and hydronic heating
  • Steamhead
    Steamhead Member Posts: 16,856
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    Around here

    the REM branch we use keeps the Hoffman and Vent-Rite units in stock. If your branch doesn't, have a talk with the manager.



    And do call Gorton. They've been known to sell direct if no one in your area carries their gear.
    All Steamed Up, Inc.
    Towson, MD, USA
    Steam, Vapor & Hot-Water Heating Specialists
    Oil & Gas Burner Service
    Consulting
  • clammy
    clammy Member Posts: 3,113
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    Thanks Frank but as far as i know there are no R.E. Michaels around here aside from you and the web i have never heard of them nor had any mech i know even suggest them.As for Gorton  usually when i need them it is for main vents and occasionaly i will use there rad vents when that is what where there direct replacement .Unless you are going to do all the math for the amount of air needed to be removed from that steam branchand rad with gortons you may have to go back and jockey some vents around and usually people don't want to pay for that so it ends up being a freebee which at this point i cannot afford to do for free and money is very tight every where.What sticks is that you used to be able to go to a supply house and get what brand you wanted and the size you need now it really seems tht no one wants to stock anything and what they do stock is usually garbage .Over the past year i have had dole main vents be garbage right outta the bag and the only to go back be questioned on where i got them and pay again for another dole and cross my fingers and hope they last . As for gorton # 1 and 2 i will next time i need them order them from pex supply being the mark up on them from the supply house that some times has them  leaves zero mark up for myself so i end up only making my labor which is what 5 minutes to replace a main vent and i ended up losing on that deal .I wish i was a bit more of a huckester and was able to hammer my custermers hard and heavy like other out there offer BS servies ( skills which only on the yellow pages exist ) which makes HO feel all warm and fuzzy but basically cover nothing except peace of mind if they don't mind writing a check.Sorry for the rant i guess the air vent issues set it off and the fact that the ecomony is rebounding so excellently that it leaves me all this time to rant plusjust about  no body wants to spend a dime and  they except you to work for a bowl of soup but **** that they got such a terrible job from the other guy who won't return phone calls but they paided the price they wanted to very very funny stuff,Again soory for the super rant peace and good luck clammy
    R.A. Calmbacher L.L.C. HVAC
    NJ Master HVAC Lic.
    Mahwah, NJ
    Specializing in steam and hydronic heating
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