Welcome! Here are the website rules, as well as some tips for using this forum.
Need to contact us? Visit https://heatinghelp.com/contact-us/.
Click here to Find a Contractor in your area.

Steam Piping - How to

DMC
DMC Member Posts: 2
Where can I find general guidelines for running steam piping?  When running a LPS line, I understand that the steam line pitches from the mechanical room towards the equipment requiring steam.  If the pipe main needs to rise, an F&T trap can push any condensate into the LPR line. (correct so far?)

What about the LPR line?  That pitches from the last steam coil down back to the mechanical room?  What if the LPR line needs to rise?  If a trap is added, where does this condensate need to go?  If a trap is added, what keeps all condensate from entering the trap and not continuing back to the mechanical room?

Thanks,

The Steam Rookie

Comments

  • World Plumber
    World Plumber Member Posts: 389
    Steamy deal

    I would advise purchasing the steamy deal on this sight and considering the Dead Men Don't Lie class. Click on shop above. Also read under systems.

      MC 
  • DMC
    DMC Member Posts: 2
    Commercial, Residential or both

    Thanks for the response.  Do these books deal with commercial applications or are they geared more towards residential?  I need the commercial application.  Thanks!
  • Dave in QCA
    Dave in QCA Member Posts: 1,788
    edited January 2011
    steam piping

    Take a look at this link.  It has some basic systems.

    http://www.bellgossett.com/literature/files/7250.pdf



    However, in low pressure steam systems, especially systems where the steam pressure is not continuously maintained, all steam piping should pitch away from the boiler.  If the layout requires a low point midway in the piping because it turn up to a higher level, then that low point must be trapped, to let the condensate drain out.  Traps go out the outlet of all steam using devices.

    The return piping, must be vented.  If it is flowing back into the boiler directly (gravity return) it must have some type of vent device.  If it is flowing into a condensate receiver tank, then the tank vent provides the venting.  All condensate lines must be pitched, without low points that could trap water, because the return line also must enable for the free passage of air.  Traps do not belong midway in a return line.  Usually, if a return line requires a lift, a condensate receiver is used as a collection point.

    Other types of systems, running at at continuous pressures of 5 psi for example, make it possible for condensate lines to be located above the steam line, and for some amount of lift to occur.  But, these are usually only seen in very large commercial, institutional, or process steam systems.
    Dave in Quad Cities, America
    Weil-McLain 680 with Riello 2-stage burner, December 2012. Firing rate=375MBH Low, 690MBH Hi.
    System = Early Dunham 2-pipe Vacuo-Vapor (inlet and outlet both at bottom of radiators) Traps are Dunham #2 rebuilt w. Barnes-Jones Cage Units, Dunham-Bush 1E, Mepco 1E, and Armstrong TS-2. All valves haveTunstall orifices sized at 8 oz.
    Current connected load EDR= 1,259 sq ft, Original system EDR = 2,100 sq ft Vaporstat, 13 oz cutout, 4 oz cutin - Temp. control Tekmar 279.
    http://grandviewdavenport.com
  • jpf321
    jpf321 Member Posts: 1,568
    great resource dave ... my personal reading list includes...

    Dave, that's a great piece of literature .. thanks for sharing ..



    Here's a few of my personal fav's on the subject:

    Heating and Ventilation: http://is.gd/kbA6v

    Modern Plumbing, Steam and HW Heating: http://is.gd/kbAN9

    Moderns HW, Steam and Gas fitting: http://is.gd/kbASj

    Heat, Science, Philosophy, Production, Application: http://is.gd/kbAYR (Mills)

    Baldwin on Heating: http://is.gd/kbBel

    Steam Heating Data: http://is.gd/kbBhh

    Ventilation, Heating and Managment of Churches and Public Bldgs: http://is.gd/kbBp5

    Essay on the Heating and Venting of Public Bldgs: http://is.gd/kbBv5

    "Title almost almost as long as the book", 602pages: http://is.gd/kbBEi

    And a few others ... but that should get you started ..
    1-pipe Homeowner - Queens, NYC

    NEW: SlantFin Intrepid TR-30 + Tankless + Riello 40-F5 @ 0.85gph | OLD: Fitzgibbons 402 boiler + Beckett "SR" Oil Gun @ 1.75gph

    installed: 0-20oz/si gauge | vaporstat | hour-meter | gortons on all rads | 1pc G#2 + 1pc G#1 on each of 2 mains

    Connected EDR load: 371 sf venting load: 2.95cfm vent capacity: 4.62cfm
    my NEW system pics | my OLD system pics
  • TomM
    TomM Posts: 233
    thanks

    *bookmarked* ........thank you

    There was an error rendering this rich post.

This discussion has been closed.