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L408A Vaporstat
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I'm hoping someone can help me diagnose a vaporstat. A neighbour of mine rescued this one from the garbage man, and gave it to me to try out. I read the manual, and have tried testing it myself with no luck. I know that if I personally move the mercury over, it will kill the boiler when it is in the middle of a heat call.
<a href="http://www.energytek.com.tw/catalog/Honeywell/L408A,B-L608A.pdf">http://www.energytek.com.tw/catalog/Honeywell/L408A,B-L608A.pdf</a>
If a Controller Seems to Operate Improperly
If the controller is suspected of operating improperly, it may be
checked further as follows (see Fig. 10):
1. Disconnect all power to the controller, loosen the cover
screw and remove the cover.
2. Disconnect the wires from the controller.
3. Connect an ohmmeter between the switch terminals.
4. Lower the setpoint of the controller (simulating a
pressure increase) through a range greater than the
differential. The switch should either make or break,
depending on the model of the controller. (An L408A
should break, an L408B should make, and an L608A
should break R-B and make R-W.) If it makes, the
ohmmeter will read zero; if it breaks, the ohmmeter will
read infinity.
5. Raise the setpoint of the controller (simulating a
pressure decrease) through a range greater than the
differential. The switch should break or make, just the
opposite of the result in step 4.
I have 0.004 ohms resistance on my multimeter touching the two probes together, with the boiler running on a heat call, the two wires read 0.009 ohms. I read 0 volts being present. If I physically move the mercury switch over, the multimeter reads 1 . 000. Which I believe is infinity. If I adjust the main or the differential screw like the manual suggests, with the ohm meter connected, I can see the mercury move over to the left, but not far enough to trip the circuit.
Is that enough information?
Thanks everyone!!!
<a href="http://www.energytek.com.tw/catalog/Honeywell/L408A,B-L608A.pdf">http://www.energytek.com.tw/catalog/Honeywell/L408A,B-L608A.pdf</a>
If a Controller Seems to Operate Improperly
If the controller is suspected of operating improperly, it may be
checked further as follows (see Fig. 10):
1. Disconnect all power to the controller, loosen the cover
screw and remove the cover.
2. Disconnect the wires from the controller.
3. Connect an ohmmeter between the switch terminals.
4. Lower the setpoint of the controller (simulating a
pressure increase) through a range greater than the
differential. The switch should either make or break,
depending on the model of the controller. (An L408A
should break, an L408B should make, and an L608A
should break R-B and make R-W.) If it makes, the
ohmmeter will read zero; if it breaks, the ohmmeter will
read infinity.
5. Raise the setpoint of the controller (simulating a
pressure decrease) through a range greater than the
differential. The switch should break or make, just the
opposite of the result in step 4.
I have 0.004 ohms resistance on my multimeter touching the two probes together, with the boiler running on a heat call, the two wires read 0.009 ohms. I read 0 volts being present. If I physically move the mercury switch over, the multimeter reads 1 . 000. Which I believe is infinity. If I adjust the main or the differential screw like the manual suggests, with the ohm meter connected, I can see the mercury move over to the left, but not far enough to trip the circuit.
Is that enough information?
Thanks everyone!!!
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Comments
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That control
must be level to operate properly. If it is, and the bulb doesn't move far enough left to trip, the control is bad.All Steamed Up, Inc.
Towson, MD, USA
Steam, Vapor & Hot-Water Heating Specialists
Oil & Gas Burner Service
Consulting0 -
I hope
these pictures are clear enough. I took them yesterday when I was testing everything. Boiler was off. The third picture was as far over as the mercury would tip performing the test. It would never go past that point.
I assume to start saving my pennies for a new one? Should I reinstall the pressuretrol for now, as a safety?
Thanks.0 -
Vaporstat
I'm looking at the pic on the far right, and it seems to me that according to the pressure gauge, the vaporstat should be made. The switch should open on a pressure rise-I can't tell what the cut in/ cut out is on the control, but it does seem like the leveling pointer is off kilter in the pic. Like Steamhead said-if it's dead nut level and won't make or break at pressure, it's a bad switch. And don't use a bad switch as anything other than a paperweight-it's a jumper wire in disguise.
All the best-0 -
do you have a 3 psi gauge?
also that iron pigtail needs retired to assure the vaporstat can be easily leveled. Brass will bend much easier.Cost is what you spend , value is what you get.
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My 0-3 psi gauge
is on order, I hope it will be here next week. I should look into the brass pigtails as well I guess, I hope my local supply house can get one. I ordered the 0-3 psi one. I had to order the gauge from the USA, my supply house couldn't get a gauge that low.
I realize it's kind of hard to tell if a vaporstat, in ounces, is working on a 0-30 psi gauge.
And I didn't realize the vaporstat had to be dead-nuts level, in the first pic you can see the needle is off the pointed by 1/32", I thought that would be close enough. Should you go just by that, or throw a level on top of it?
Thanks for all your help, I'll throw up new pictures once the new stuffs installed.0 -
I'm assuming
my vaporstat is pooched. Heres pics of the new gauge.
Thanks everyone.0 -
Did you check
where that nipple goes into the boiler from that elbow? I have seen them clog many times.Cost is what you spend , value is what you get.
cell # 413-841-6726
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I checked
it before I installed the vaporstat last spring. I ordered a brass pigtail earlier this week, I'm hoping it's in this week. Thanks.0 -
Bad Vaporstat
Don't toss the old one in the trash. Most towns will take mercury switches off your hands as part of hazardous waste.0 -
Garbage
If your neighbor rescued it from the garbage there may be a reason it doesn't work!!!
I built a jig that I connect to a hand pump so I can watch what pressure it opens and closes at. If it's not working correctly don't leave it on the boiler!!!0
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