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A new book!

DanHolohan Member, Moderator, Administrator Posts: 16,279
Waiting for this one to arrive from the printer. We have it on a pre-order sale right now. I think you'll like it a lot:

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  • David Nadle
    David Nadle Member Posts: 624
    Promo code not working?

    Dan I can't wait! But when I entered the promo code it said it wasn't recognized.
  • DanHolohan
    DanHolohan Member, Moderator, Administrator Posts: 16,279

    We fixed that and we'll get your $5 back to your. Thanks!
    Retired and loving it.
  • jpf321
    jpf321 Member Posts: 1,568
    does the book...

    congrats Dan on a new book!

    I'm wondering if it provides any quantified data or case studies on actual $$$ saved. or ways to calculate potential savings?

    1-pipe Homeowner - Queens, NYC

    NEW: SlantFin Intrepid TR-30 + Tankless + Riello 40-F5 @ 0.85gph | OLD: Fitzgibbons 402 boiler + Beckett "SR" Oil Gun @ 1.75gph

    installed: 0-20oz/si gauge | vaporstat | hour-meter | gortons on all rads | 1pc G#2 + 1pc G#1 on each of 2 mains

    Connected EDR load: 371 sf venting load: 2.95cfm vent capacity: 4.62cfm
    my NEW system pics | my OLD system pics
  • DanHolohan
    DanHolohan Member, Moderator, Administrator Posts: 16,279
    I know of no reliable way to calculate actual savings.

    There are too many variables, but the book does have stories about jobs that showed big savings, and how these came to be. I think you'll enjoy it. 
    Retired and loving it.
  • DavidK_2
    DavidK_2 Member Posts: 129
    How about a pdf version

    to cut down on printing costs - and its associated energy usage?

    Maybe a freebee to help green the planet for your grandkids.

    btw, I've heard a rumor - green is no longer a color ! The word now means something different.

    Anyway, congrats, and thanks for letting us know.
  • Eugene Silberstein
    Eugene Silberstein Member Posts: 1,380
    A new book is born!!

    A very dear friend told me that he "loves seeing a new book being born".


    Oh.. that was Dan!

    Best of luck with it!!!
  • Ex Maine Doug
    Ex Maine Doug Member Posts: 162
    Just ordered it

    Promo code works.  Thanks.
  • DanHolohan
    DanHolohan Member, Moderator, Administrator Posts: 16,279

    And no one knows that feeling better than you. :-)
    Retired and loving it.
  • MikeyB
    MikeyB Member Posts: 696

    Just ordered mine over the phone, had a problem with the promo code as well
  • DanHolohan
    DanHolohan Member, Moderator, Administrator Posts: 16,279

    The five bucks comes off automatically when you place your online order. No need to enter a Promo Code. 
    Retired and loving it.
  • DanHolohan
    DanHolohan Member, Moderator, Administrator Posts: 16,279
    Thanks to all who are ordering.

    The elves are going nuts!

    Should have ordered more. Hmm.
    Retired and loving it.
  • JohnNY
    JohnNY Member Posts: 3,145
    Just ordered two....

    ...and looking forward.

    Thanks for your fresh and ongoing support, Dan.
    Contact John "JohnNY" Cataneo, NYC Master Plumber, Lic 1784
    Plumbing in NYC or in NJ.
    Take his class.
  • Gordo
    Gordo Member Posts: 839
    I've Just

    Ordered a copy.  It will be difficult to wait.  Any excerpts available?
    All Steamed Up, Inc.
    "Reducing our country's energy consumption, one system at a time"
    Steam, Vapor & Hot-Water Heating Specialists
    Oil & Gas Burner Service
    Baltimore, MD (USA) and consulting anywhere.
  • MikeyB
    MikeyB Member Posts: 696

    Dan, any idea when your book about Air in Hydronic Systems is due out? I remember you looking for some research on this subject a while back, thanks
  • DanHolohan
    DanHolohan Member, Moderator, Administrator Posts: 16,279
    edited January 2010
    You're in it!

    Get it to you as soon as it arrives. 
    Retired and loving it.
  • DanHolohan
    DanHolohan Member, Moderator, Administrator Posts: 16,279
    Still on it, but it's a slow process.

    I've got a lot of thinking and sifting to do. 
    Retired and loving it.
  • MikeyB
    MikeyB Member Posts: 696
    New book

    Thanks Dan, keep us posted
  • ttekushan_3
    ttekushan_3 Member Posts: 953
    Dan, thanks for getting to it.

    You are the logical person to write such a book. As you know, a bunch of us in the field are getting great results in "greening" of steam heat, but its a tough sell sometimes due to the lack of a general protocol. I have some good, unofficial case studies but that doesn't always translate well to the skeptical potential client.

    So I've ordered a copy, and if its true to form, you've given us both something to learn from and to help sell a job. I will recommend it to homeowners as well. Maybe you'll have "monster steamy deal" for all the books! Anyway, there won't be any excuse for steam to continue to be a "lost art."

    Just what the doctor ordered.

  • DanHolohan
    DanHolohan Member, Moderator, Administrator Posts: 16,279
    Thanks, Terry.

    I hope you like it. 
    Retired and loving it.
  • Gee, Dan, I had the same idea ......

    "Going Green with Steam" as the name of my series of articles.  I am going over to order the book now.  I already have two more articles in the works.  I hope to get them together once things slow down some. 

    The Steam Whisperer (Formerly Boilerpro)

    Chicago's Steam Heating Expert

    Noisy Radiators are a Cry for Help
  • DanHolohan
    DanHolohan Member, Moderator, Administrator Posts: 16,279
    Can never be green enough.

    Retired and loving it.
  • Luv'nsteam
    Luv'nsteam Member Posts: 278
    New "green" book

    Hi Dan.  I just ordered a copy myself.  I am wondering though, do you have information in there about converting to or back to, a vacuum system?


  • DanHolohan
    DanHolohan Member, Moderator, Administrator Posts: 16,279

    that's in there. Thanks.
    Retired and loving it.
  • ttekushan_3
    ttekushan_3 Member Posts: 953
    Look forward to more of your articles

    Hi Boilerpro- I had started writing up my own protocol for increasing the efficiency of steam heating systems with particular attention to "virtual downsizing" of the heating system via inlet restriction or tamper proof radiator vents. This is not a new idea, of course, but one that has to be revisited IMO since oversized systems with oversized oversized boilers are generally the root of excess fuel consumption.

    But when I saw your first article and the general subject matter of those to follow, I knew the subject was in good hands. I've followed your posts over the years on undersizing steamers and the necessary precautions. Your experiences are more or less similar to mine. What a time saver for me!

    And now Dan has piped up with what promises to be a good volume as well. I'm thankful to those who have put all their thoughts in print since we desperately need the knowledge out there.

    Case in point: I did a walk through of a large steam heated public facility with two major vacuum systems; one wing is a Paul derivative and the other wing a two pipe vacuum return system with a duplex "Domestic" vacuum heating pump. The piping and radiators are tight, with no leaks anywhere to be found. However, the Paul system has had all the vents replaced with conventional types and the simplex "Domestic" vacuum pump cast aside in favor of a conventional condensate pump. The condensate hangs out in the system for so long that the when the system shuts down for more than an hour or two, the boiler feed tank over fills and dumps its contents into the boilers by gravity. Maintenance staff dumps somewhere upwards of 200 gallons every day into the drain.

    The vacuum return two pipe system has been hacked into with radiator vents that screech from the pressure (they're only towards the farthest part of the system). Why? One return pump has the wires disconnected with hot wires dangling dangerously, and the other pump pops the breaker. The overflow leads out and into a sump. No condensate ever makes it back to the boiler. One hundred percent fresh make up water! They have a large room filled with drums of water treatment chemicals that cost them a fortune. Its been like this for years.

    And here's the point of my bringing this up-- There's nothing fundamentally wrong with the system at all. It needs new vacuum pumping units and Paul vents. I went through all the tunnels and the return vent piping along with everything else is perfectly intact. Every engineer that has gone through has determined that the entire system must be trashed and replaced, which in a complex like this is a mind boggling sum of money.

    Just think- a couple of good books and articles on this subject could prevent this insanity. I gave them a full written report on the origins and theory of their systems and what is required to bring it back to spec. Maybe Dan's book will come in enough time for them to take my recommendations more seriously!

  • Ron Jr._3
    Ron Jr._3 Member Posts: 603
    Going to order a copy today

    Hopefully after a Jets win !

    Unless you'll be selling copies from the store in Bethpage ?

    It'll be the 1st printed book I've read since buying a Kindle . I hope I remember how to hold one .................  :)
  • Kevin_in_Denver_2
    Kevin_in_Denver_2 Member Posts: 588
    Amazon availability

    I got an amazon gift card for Christmas, when can I use it on Greening Steam?
    Superinsulated Passive solar house, Buderus in floor backup heat by Mark Eatherton, 3KW grid-tied PV system, various solar thermal experiments
  • MikeyB
    MikeyB Member Posts: 696
    New Book

    Got the new book last night, love it. Good job once again Dan
  • Supply House Rick
    Supply House Rick Member Posts: 1,404
    Dan, congrats on the new book!

    I will get that soon...

  • I give up!

    Dan, I've been trying to order the new book and like many others, I can't get the promo code to work as well. Im sending the check out in snail mail with the discount.. Congrats on your new book! Hope there's any left!
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